Israel's Hushed Military Ties With Russia Now Paying Off

haaretz.com ^ | Oct 09, 2015 1:43 AM | Anshel Pfeffer

[Trumpinator]

The USA backs Israel’s loans. So there is incentive to buy American. I assume.

[DeathBeforeDishonor1]

Please stop. Your ignorance of the situation is awkward.

[ETL]

Screw you. I’m posting pieces stating FACTS of what is going on, and what various people have said or done. It’s obvious what Russia is up to here and in Europe. Also what you Putinista creeps are up to on this website. If this were my site I would have booted your butts off a long time ago. So again, screw you.

[Trumpinator]

If you think about it - with the new sectarian war - the Muslims are no longer all one happy family anymore. They never were but pretended. That is why many westerners forgot or did not dwell on the Shia/Sunni split as a major force in thinking before the Iraq invasion/occupation.

Iran maybe is no longer caring about the plight of Sunni Muslim Palestinians who are sympathetic to ISIS and al-Qaeda these days.

Iran still talks the old talk but right now they Shia want to fight the Sunnis and that means Israel can achieve detente with Shia Iran and Shia Hezbollah.

[txhurl]

Using their anti-war plantform, the Left has made every aspect and sector of their moonbat-coalition look 10X bigger than it is in *Every Western Country on the Planet* to sieze barely enough control to begin kill off the Christian West.

I would give them a 6.5 on overall deployment and implementation, most of which is rollback-able globally. Their engineers and leaders are going to have to be taken fishing somewhere, by numerous different groups that came under devastating attack. Here they went too far, too hard too quick, and I 'blame' Cruz for having the plans to evaporate them. And Tom DeLay.

[Trumpinator]

Which pro war hawks in the USA want to save Assad to save the Syrian Christians? Because no Assad rule in Syria (or someone like him) no Christians left in Syria.

How is this not getting through to people?

[ETL]

You/Putinator/"Trumpinator":
Quick - tell Bibi!!!!!!

Me/ETL:
Just pointing out that he couldn't possibly be comfortable with your boy KGB/FSB Putin's joining forces with all of these Israel hating islamo-nazi regimes and terror groups. This despite what he thinks he must do or say at this very difficult and complex time.

You/Putinator/"Trumpinator":
How do you know what Bibi is comfortable with?

Me/ETL:
Are you suggesting he [Bibi] doesn’t really like Israel and want it to survive?

You/Putinator/"Trumpinator":
Are you saying Putin is vital to Israel’s survival? Interesting.

In terms of his long-time ongoing support for these Israel-hating terror regimes and groups, obviously. And who knows what he's doing behind the scenes to undermine them, and us. The things we see on the surface are bad enough.

[Trumpinator]

I got you to respond without spaming. I hope it was not too much effort.

[ETL]

Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
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Kremlin pays internet trolls to flatter Putin
Ben Hoyle - Moscow
October 11 2013

Russian investigative journalists and bloggers have uncovered an army of internet trolls paid to pour invective on the Kremlin’s opponents and heap praise on President Putin.

Posing as job applicants, the reporters discovered the government hacks working at a small company called the St Petersburg Internet Research Agency. ...”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/article3891720.ece

[bert]

there is no loss of israel

Obama has been formally tossed into the trash heap of history

It is Obama the black tyrant on that trash heap, not America

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

IIRC Germany subsidized Israeli purchases of Dolphin class submarines, so if Israel wanted Eurofighters (or whatever Germany can give them), they could probably get them at a similarly steep discount.

[epow]

I would never have thought that Russia would fight against any of the Islamic nations while America turns our back on our most steadfast ally Israel. But that seems to be happening now, thanks to Obama’s utter incompetence at handling international relations along with his hatred for both Israel and Netanyahu.

That's what Americans get for electing an Islamic as president. I believe that Obama is without question an Islamic at heart if not in name, and his loyalty is to Islam, not America. days to go before this assclown is outta here, and all I can say is good riddance to bad rubbish.

468 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and he's outtahere, I can hardly wait

[ETL]

The fact that you refer to critically important recorded statements and actions as “spam” reveals that you are a phony SOB, here only to cheer on KGB/FSB Putin and his expansionist agenda. Why you bastards are allowed to remain here doing what you do is beyond me.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Things that make you go, hmmmmmm...

Senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards General Hossein Hamedani killed in Syria

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3346789/posts

[EQAndyBuzz]

Things that make you go, hmmmmmm...

Senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards General Hossein Hamedani killed in Syria

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3346789/posts

[EQAndyBuzz]

“This could be a game changer for Israel to be completely independent.”

And they could export. Hmmmmm.

[SJackson]

Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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[ETL]

Thanks. It could indeed be that Putin ordered the hit. After all, Russia needs ISIS in order to justify their expansionist actions in the Middle East.
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"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the “Russian special services have controlled” the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]

March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn’t a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don’t care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.

[SJackson]

Wonder how this will turn out when Israel bombs out those Iranian reactors? Or maybe the Ruskies will save them the trouble by including another stuxnet worm in their next parts shipment.

Iran is useful to Putin now. Probably not a permanent condition. He won't care if Iran becomes non nuclear.

[ETL]

Re: "Meanwhile, Putinista, I'd bet you can't wait for Putin to restore the old Soviet Union, or something not too much different from it."

Please stop. Your ignorance of the situation is awkward.

Stick this up your Putin loving rear opening...

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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“The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century',” Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor "

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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Russia Is Building A Massive Military Base On Ukrainian Border

The Daily Caller ^ | September 10, 2015 | Reuters

Russia is building a military base along the Ukrainian border, signaling its preparing for long-term support of the pro-Russian separatists fighting for Ukraine. The massive base - scheduled for completion in April - will house ammunition depots and barracks for several thousand soldiers, and will be used to train soldiers, reported Reuters. The Reuters reporter investigating the new base was temporarily detained and accused of being a Ukrainian spy. Russian officials didn't respond to Reuters questions about the purpose of the base and whether it's connected to the fight for Ukraine. ..."

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Russia Plans Second Big Military Base Near Ukrainian Border
Reuters, via freebeacon.com ^ | September 23, 2015 | Anton Zverev

BOGUCHAR, Russia (Reuters) – Russia is planning a second major military base near the border with Ukraine, where NATO accuses Russian troops of helping pro-Moscow separatists fight Kiev’s forces.

The new base will house 5,000 soldiers and heavy weaponry, according to public documents and people working at the site.

It is further east than one under construction in Belgorod region reported by Reuters earlier this month but still close to the border with separatist-held parts of Ukraine’s eastern Luhansk region, where there has been heavy fighting.

The bases are part of a Russian military buildup along a new line of confrontation with the West, running from the Black Sea in the south to the Baltic in the north, which carries echoes of the Cold War-era “Iron Curtain”.

Russia has also increased its military presence in Syria.

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...