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Jacksonville cargo ship missing in hurricane Coast Guard in Miami searching for ship with 33 crew
http://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-cargo-ship-missing-in-hurricane/35618018 ^

Posted on 10/02/2015 9:01:12 AM PDT by halo66

MIAMI -

Coast Guard search and rescue crews are searching for a container ship with 33 crew members that sailed out of Jacksonville and was reported to be caught in Hurricane Joaquin, near Crooked Island, Bahamas.

The El Faro, a 735-foot ro-ro cargo ship, was en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico, from Jacksonville.

About 7:30 a.m. Thursday, watchstanders at the Coast Guard Atlantic Area command center in Portsmouth, Virginia, received an Inmarsat satellite notification stating the El Faro was beset by Hurricane Joaquin, had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained...

http://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-cargo-ship-missing-in-hurricane/35618018

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bahamas; bermudatriangle; elfaro; hurricane; hurricanejoaquin; jacksonville; joaquin; puertorico; tote; totemaritime; uscg
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To: CGASMIA68
...the contents of these containers and or the containers may be showing up on the SE Coast soon.

IMO Their only hope was to dump the containers overboard. They are a huge sail, way too top-heavy and no power?? Very bad situation.

21 posted on 10/02/2015 9:36:17 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: halo66

I will. My husband sounded like they are in a panic. Probably the last I’ll hear from him until late tonight.


22 posted on 10/02/2015 9:43:45 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: C19fan; halo66
I rode out Hurricane David at sea off Charleston, SC in 1979 on a Navy frigate. Wouldn't want to do it again but it was an interesting experience.

As strange as it might seem, modern ships are safer at sea during a hurricane than in port. This is especially true for ships with a large sail area (that means a large area on the sides for the wind to push against).

In port the wind can push against all that surface area and risk snapping the mooring lines. From there the ship becomes a danger to everything else in port. It can ground and block the channel and/or leak fuel into the harbor.

At sea with all watertight hatches dogged down there is little chance of the ship taking on water as long as they stay pointed into the wind and waves.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

23 posted on 10/02/2015 9:46:38 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: C19fan

As big as that ship is, they probably do it routinely...maybe foolishly, since a failed engine could be a death sentence...but I bet they didn’t go into the hurricane ‘by accident’.


24 posted on 10/02/2015 9:48:31 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: halo66

How stupid were they to leave at 7:30 thursday mornign?

we were hearing about this hurricane all week....


25 posted on 10/02/2015 9:49:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: rktman

I lost my engine in the Niagara River once- a few miles downstream is Niagara Falls...

I have nightmares about it- I dont like to go there too much


26 posted on 10/02/2015 9:50:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Mr. K

Lucky they didn’t fine you for polluting the river. Oh, you mean it quit on you? Or did you actually lose it. In any case, you’re safe now. Now, stay off that river.


27 posted on 10/02/2015 9:53:22 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Justa

Not a sailor, but I remember my Navy brother saying they got excited with rolls over 17 degrees, Don’t remember the panic level figure , but his ship wasn’t as top heavy as a loaded container ship.


28 posted on 10/02/2015 9:57:28 AM PDT by wrench
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To: C19fan

A fully loaded container ship has an extremely high wind profile. During a full force hurricane the side wind forces are up to maximum design parameters. Add full force hurricane winds in addition to severe wave actions, you have a very dangerous situation.

Worse yet, if the top cargo shifts, it’s even worse...and finally if you lose propulsion, it’s TERMINAL.

If this ship doesn’t founder it will be a miracle.

God help all souls on board.


29 posted on 10/02/2015 9:58:08 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: LonePalm

Thanks for your story...I would be puking my brains out! LOL


30 posted on 10/02/2015 9:59:28 AM PDT by halo66
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To: rktman

How does an engine quit? Can it also decide to run decide to run. Or did you mean it stopped running?


31 posted on 10/02/2015 10:00:52 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

“How does an engine quit”

Water in the fuel tanks. A huge gulp of water down the air intake.


32 posted on 10/02/2015 10:04:14 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Vinnie

Corporate office wont allow that and don’t give a rats butt about the crew.Sad reality


33 posted on 10/02/2015 10:04:16 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: LonePalm

as they stay pointed into the wind and waves

Yup but ya need power to achieve that if not yer a cork in a washing machine


34 posted on 10/02/2015 10:06:07 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Stopped running would be my guess. :>}


35 posted on 10/02/2015 10:08:42 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: DH

“Worse yet, if the top cargo shifts”

With no propulsion, a shift would be fatal for sure. Reports said the ship had a 15 degree list and was taking on water. It could have easily capsized. Prayers up for the crew.

Taking or ordering a ship to sail into the path of a cat 4 hurricane is a criminally negligent action IMO.


36 posted on 10/02/2015 10:09:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: halo66; rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; ...
Pinging to the original thread.

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


37 posted on 10/02/2015 10:12:49 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: LonePalm
Interesting...Hurricane Recon plane descended to look for ship: Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits 3m3 minutes ago Wow - recon descended to 200m in #Joaquin's eye, purportedly trying to make visual contact with missing cargo ship.
38 posted on 10/02/2015 10:13:22 AM PDT by halo66
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To: halo66

Has a Sat beacon been detected?


39 posted on 10/02/2015 10:15:19 AM PDT by wrench
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To: FreedomNotSafety
How does an engine quit?

Sediment on the bottom of fuel tanks can get stirred up in big seas and can get picked up and enter the fuel line to the engine.
This will plug the fuel filters and stop the engine.
The filters would have to be replaced; the engine primed; and restarted.
On some boats this is a long process.

That is just one of the likely things that can happen.- Tom

40 posted on 10/02/2015 10:16:03 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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