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Minnesota court: BB gun is a ‘firearm’
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Posted on 09/28/2015 3:59:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

A BB gun is a firearm, the Minnesota Court of Appeals has ruled.

The court made its declaration in the case of a man who was not allowed to possess a firearm because of an earlier felony conviction for possession of a controlled substance.

This is the law that tripped up David Haywood.

Any person who has been convicted of a crime of violence, as defined in section 624.712, subdivision 5, and who ships, transports, possesses, or receives a firearm, commits a felony and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 15 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.

But the law doesn’t define what a firearm is.

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To: Red in Blue PA
Minnesota court: BB gun is a ‘firearm’

Where's the 'fire'?!?

The Minnesota Court of Appeals judges who decided this should be impeached, and strongly encouraged to leave the country, along with the legislators who confirmed them to the court.

61 posted on 09/28/2015 4:56:59 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: FredZarguna
Toddler in violation of National Firearms Act, local restrictions on sawed-off shotguns, Minnesota Court rules.


62 posted on 09/28/2015 4:58:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It appears a Kenyan has infiltrated the lumber room")
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To: Wonder Warthog

Its a daisy. The “clip” is internal. Pull a side back. Turn upside down give it a few shakes release slide and fire. The hopper holds about 300 bbs


63 posted on 09/28/2015 4:58:52 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

my sympathy level for convicted felons that used violence and weapons in their crimes, that they lose their gun rights forever, is right there at zero and’i do not give a damn they can’t have guns anymore. they are lucky society did not execute them. train robbers were executed regardless if anyone was murdered. horse theives were executed for taking someones horse and leaving them stranded regardless they did not blatantly shoot someone. they are lucky to be alive.


64 posted on 09/28/2015 5:00:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Couldn’t a “felon” just rent a gun?


65 posted on 09/28/2015 5:01:39 PM PDT by Misterioso (Altruism is a sin.)
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To: FredZarguna
Nerf Machine Gun® looks like a machine gun, therefore is a machine gun, libtard judge finds:


66 posted on 09/28/2015 5:01:49 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It appears a Kenyan has infiltrated the lumber room")
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To: Red in Blue PA
A lot of persons don't even know the difference between a BB gun and an air rifle. Neither is a firearm. A BB gun is spring loaded. The cocking mechanism pulls the spring back and the trigger releases the spring and propels. Most of us over 50 had basic BB guns as kids.

An air rifle is a variable pressure propelled by air or CO2 rifle. The air rifle is much more dangerous than a spring loaded BB gun but still is not a firearm. Either pressurized air or CO2 propels the BB in an air rifle.

67 posted on 09/28/2015 5:03:33 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: polymuser
Then we must control pea shooters, dart blowers, marshmallow guns, potato guns, pumpkin chuckers and Nerf guns.

Red office staplers. (Office worker fiercely protected his red staple gun in "Office Space"; soon to be controlled.)

68 posted on 09/28/2015 5:05:06 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Misterioso

i think its pretty clear felons have very little trouble getting guns.


69 posted on 09/28/2015 5:05:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
A CO2 powered pistol BB gun with an effective range of 350 yards???

I want one too! I have a Daisy 990 dual-power rifle, can use CO2 or pump it manually. The more I pump it beyond the regular 8 to 10 pumps gives me greater range. But no way would I get 350 yards! It can be deadly at close range if mishandled, I've put BBs through several boards and sheetrock which is thicker than my skull. But it ain't a firearm.

70 posted on 09/28/2015 5:13:37 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: rey

I don’t have a problem with violent criminals losing their 2A. Hell, I think they should do harsher sentences, but somehow, I’m just not all that concerned with Martha Stewart or Scooter Libby packing heat.


71 posted on 09/28/2015 5:16:21 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Red in Blue PA

Once again, common sense proves an uncommon commodity in a liberal court.


72 posted on 09/28/2015 5:16:53 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Red in Blue PA

There are slingshots deadlier than a BB gun!! URGH!! North Dakota here I come... I’m sick of this....


73 posted on 09/28/2015 5:19:37 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Red in Blue PA
Rob a store with a gun....nobody killed.
(why should)They should lose their gun rights forever?

Because I've interviewed perfectly nice guys in prison for a long, long, time because the "nobody got killed" part didn't quite work out.

74 posted on 09/28/2015 5:20:26 PM PDT by norton
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To: Red in Blue PA

In The People”s Republic of New Jersey a bb gun has firearm status as well as air soft.


75 posted on 09/28/2015 5:21:19 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Renegade

Slingshots r illegal in NJ also.


76 posted on 09/28/2015 5:24:42 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Secret Agent Man

But if he could show the police his rental receipt, he couldn’t be charged with ownership. Heh, heh.


77 posted on 09/28/2015 5:37:49 PM PDT by Misterioso (Altruism is a sin.)
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To: expat2

“No way — where’s the fire that all firearms produce to expel the bullet?”

One of the definitions for the intransitive verb “to fire” is:

to emit or let fly an object (Merriam-Webster)

Such dictionary definitions to do require any combustion for the verb to mean the propulsion of an object by whatever means. The method of propulsion with a BB gun may be either a spring or compressed air, which does in fact “let fly an object” as described in the definition.


78 posted on 09/28/2015 5:40:23 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Red in Blue PA

Um, what? Holy mentally retarded leftists Batman! Simple logical question for the “smart” ones: Where is the fire, in a BB gun?


79 posted on 09/28/2015 5:49:55 PM PDT by vpintheak (Man up and bring it politicians!)
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To: roadcat

“But it ain’t a firearm.”

That’s wishful thinking. Any armament whose purpose is to “to emit or let fly an object” is defined by the dictionaries as the “firing” of an armament, whether or not any combustion is involved. You can fire a rock from a sling, catapult, or ballistae as they did in the ancient wars as a form of artillery.


80 posted on 09/28/2015 6:02:44 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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