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Putin to Obama: Learn The Lessons Of Soviet History, "Social Experiments For Export" Do Not Work
RCP Video ^ | 9-28-2015

Posted on 09/28/2015 1:45:38 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

At the UN General Assembly, Russian President Vladimir Putin says that President Obama needs to learn the lessons of history before intervening internationally, because "certain episodes from the history of the Soviet Union, social experiments for export, attempts to push for changes with other countries based on ideological preferences... often lead to tragic consequences."

"It seems that far from learning from the mistakes of others, everyone keeps repeating them," Putin said. "And so the export of revolutions, this time of so-called democratic ones, continues. It was enough to look at the situation in the Middle and North Africa."

"But how did it actually turn out? Rather than bringing about reforms and addressing foreign interference, it resulted in a brazen destruction of national institutions and lifestyles. Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social division. And nobody cares about about human rights, including the rights to life."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; thugs
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To: Sir Napsalot

Obama’s interference in Venezuela, Algeria, Libya, Egypt and Syria have been massive failures. Putin is trying to save some of the region and stop the terrorists; Obama is trying to destroy the region and empower the terrorists. I don’t like Putin, but he’s right, dammit.


21 posted on 09/28/2015 2:05:37 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Norm Lenhart

...jerry jeff walker
once sang

“the pot can’t call the kettle black cuzz the trains running down the same ole track”

LOL Two liars trying to out do one another


22 posted on 09/28/2015 2:06:14 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: trisham
They are cut from the same ideological cloth.

The only difference is, Putin had extensive experience as an apparatchik that got real blood on his hands.

Obama never had the chance to do it for real like Putin, so his experience in that respect is all delegated.

Other than that, their views about government are pretty closely aligned, though neither would admit it.

23 posted on 09/28/2015 2:06:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sure. Democratization worked in (much of) Eastern Europe, because it was a popular movement (and because there was already some experience — however short — of working representative government). Attempts to democratize the Middle East — Bush’s as well as Obama’s — have been far less successful because the foundation of rule of law and respect for the individual really weren’t there.


24 posted on 09/28/2015 2:07:20 PM PDT by x
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To: Sir Napsalot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=q13yzl6k6w0


25 posted on 09/28/2015 2:07:35 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: rlmorel

Agreed. Both agree politically, but Putin is willing to roll up his sleeves and get to it, while Obama would rather read from the teleprompter and then go golfing.


26 posted on 09/28/2015 2:11:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: x

Maybe I am mistaken, but isn’t it a rewrite to say that the goal of the Gulf War was the democratization of Iraq? Wasn’t it about Iraq invading Kuwait and murdering Kurds as well as torturing their own people?


27 posted on 09/28/2015 2:12:05 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: realcleanguy

I like Putin better than Obama. One thing I would like to ask Putin is if he would have just left Iraq in Kuwait without helping Kuwait. And what about Sadaam gassing the Kurds and killing his own people by placing them in meat grinders?


28 posted on 09/28/2015 2:15:39 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Is this a Mea Culpa I hear from Putin or does he not like it when the Commie garbage Russia has exported for the last 98 years is washing up on their own shores?

29 posted on 09/28/2015 2:17:41 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

pretty frank talk from an ex KGB


30 posted on 09/28/2015 2:18:35 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

As for Afghanistan, the United States was attacked. It was not about spreading revolution as much as it was about fighting terrorism. Am I remembering wrongly? We actually did a good job coordinating a national coalition. Putin may be correct about current events, but he is not entitled to his own rewritten “facts” about our past conflicts.


31 posted on 09/28/2015 2:19:08 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Putin to Obama: Learn The Lessons Of Soviet History

Obama to us: Islam played an important Part in Our Nation's Founding

Vlad, he should probably learn ours first.

32 posted on 09/28/2015 2:20:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

An INTERNATIONAL Coalition I mean.


33 posted on 09/28/2015 2:20:55 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I know, there are other pieces in Putin’s speech (including ISIS just as smart, etc) that was a real whack on our fragile flower, I mean, potus.

That one-on-one meeting between Putin and Obama is (thank goodness) behind closed doors. Good thing Obama is half black, otherwise he’s showing all the bruises. We will know, because Obama will be extra nasty against his domestic enemy, us.


34 posted on 09/28/2015 2:22:09 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No sweat. They just aren’t bothering to cover Putin’s comments.


35 posted on 09/28/2015 2:37:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“the United States was attacked:

So why did we attack Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia?

There were no Afghani hijackers on those planes.


36 posted on 09/28/2015 2:37:29 PM PDT by wrench
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To: LeoWindhorse
That was an interesting speech given by Putin. He used words that Obama is allergic to like "right to life" and "our common values."
37 posted on 09/28/2015 2:40:49 PM PDT by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: wrench

“So why did we attack Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia?”

Ohhhhh,,, you aren’t allowed to ask the forbidden question. And a military attack wasn’t what Saudi Arabia deserved beyond a small nuke on Mecca.
What the Saudis deserved was a financial attack from us. An instant freezing and confiscation of all Saudi assets and properties. And the seizure of their oil fields if we wanted them.

That would have got the worlds attention.


38 posted on 09/28/2015 2:43:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino

“Saudi Arabia deserved beyond a small nuke on Mecca.
What the Saudis deserved was a financial attack from us. An instant freezing and confiscation of all Saudi assets and properties. And the seizure of their oil fields if we wanted them.

That would have got the worlds attention.”

We need a do-over


39 posted on 09/28/2015 2:46:04 PM PDT by wrench
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Maybe I am mistaken, but isn’t it a rewrite to say that the goal of the Gulf War was the democratization of Iraq? Wasn’t it about Iraq invading Kuwait and murdering Kurds as well as torturing their own people?

Gulf War 1990-1991, sure.

But I'm pretty sure there was another Bush later who had different plans.

40 posted on 09/28/2015 2:50:16 PM PDT by x
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