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The conservative poll Donald Trump could not win
CBS ^ | 9/26/15 | Reena Flores

Posted on 09/26/2015 3:16:50 PM PDT by VinL

The results are in at the Values Voter Summit -- and, for once, Donald Trump fails to top a conservative poll.

The straw poll at the summit, a conservative gathering hosted by the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C., showed Texas Sen. Ted Cruz winning over voters, leading the pack for the third year in a row.

Cruz, with 35 percent of support, was followed by neurosurgeon-turned-politician Ben Carson, with 18 percent of the vote. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee came in third, drawing 14 percent of supporters, followed by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 13 percent.

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Registering at fifth place on the survey results: Donald Trump, the GOP front-runner in many state and national polls.

The religious conservatives in attendance simply weren't buying what Trump had to offer. Despite bringing his Bible on stage when addressing the audience, Trump registered at only 5 percent. Trump was even booed at the summit when he slammed Rubio over his immigration policies and called him a "clown."

Below Trump, Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Hewlett-Packard chief Carly Fiorina came in with 4 percent and 3 percent of the vote, respectively.

Trump's low support among the conservative evangelical base will come as no surprise for those following the billionaire's presidential campaign. Trump has been known to flout convention when it comes to wooing the religious right, even admitting once that he was "not sure" that he had ever asked God for forgiveness.

"If I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right, I don't bring God into that picture," Trump said in July at the Family Leadership Summit in Iowa.

Still, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, who announced the summit's results, said that Trump's fifth place showing was still "pretty good."

Of the issues most important to attendees, the top three included protecting religious liberty, advocating against abortion rights and protecting "natural marriage."

Carson, with 25 percent of the vote, was the first choice for the vice-presidential slot.

At least 2,700 registered participants attended the summit.


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KEYWORDS: cnsrvtvtreehouse; cruz; donaldtrump; notarealpoll; strawpolls; sundance; tds; trump
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To: RitaOK

Hey Rita,

I didn’t post the thread to bang on Donald, but only to suggest that Cruz’s performance aided him in Iowa. I have no clue why this thread is in “breaking news”— I didn’t put it there.

As you indicate, Trump is appealing more to the secular anti-establishment folks, of which there are many; Cruz the religious folks. I surmise that was the Trump/Cruz deal, energize the disenfranchised for their mutual benefit.

Objectively, as to Trump, though I know he prides himself on “off the cuff”- perhaps, in certain arenas, it might be better to have prepared remarks. Here, perhaps he could have had staffers flag a few passages from the Bible, to give him some structure. For instance, Cruz always says- “you shall know they by their fruits—” then he goes off on a political rant. Trump could have done the same.

But, he’s at 30%, this episode won’t harm him with those who are his base support. It did help Cruz energize his base.


141 posted on 09/26/2015 6:49:18 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: RitaOK

It was in GOP club. Someone moved it while I was out grocery shopping with Mrs. 2ndDivisionVet (Barbara). Believe it or not, that happens to me at least once or twice a week, it seems, without me asking to have it switched.


142 posted on 09/26/2015 6:54:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: RitaOK; 2ndDivisionVet

Nah, Vet didn’t do it. I’m thinking it’s a slow board night, and someone saw the usual Cruz/Trump trolls getting into it, and decided to stir the pot... maybe.


143 posted on 09/26/2015 6:54:49 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Extrapolating out that Cruz is now going to sweep the South
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Who said that?


144 posted on 09/26/2015 6:57:16 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump Trump Trump . Right down their GOPe throats . I LOVE IT!! “Conservatives” my rusty red A$$! REBELLION!! You better ,By God, not fund planned Parenthood or you bastard just handed us the entire party infrastructure and we will ,by God Take it— Thanks!!


145 posted on 09/26/2015 7:00:05 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump will reverse this with his" pen and a phone" Screw them!!)
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To: dforest

This article is Bull $hit.


146 posted on 09/26/2015 7:01:28 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump will reverse this with his" pen and a phone" Screw them!!)
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To: VinL

No, no, I knew you didn’t post to bang on Trump. I was just thinking about your question to Jane, on how the article got in breaking news. I was responding to that and also that we agree that it was crystal clear that was not a Trump audience, probably from the get-go. I was just pleased that he showed up and let it fly, anyway.

I believe he will do the same with the minorities, particularly Black Americans. Republicans always blow them off. He has parts of steel evidently, and oozes of leadership. Best to you, my friend. Rita


147 posted on 09/26/2015 7:02:07 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

Check out #142.


148 posted on 09/26/2015 7:04:27 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Trump didn’t win the CPAC straw poll either.”

Now which idiot would want to win that RINO lickfest?


149 posted on 09/26/2015 7:06:18 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: VinL

Sorry Vin, I have totally confused the issue.

I think we were all anxious to see the results of any kind from the Values forum. It truly is breaking news. This was the first I had seen of any form of results.


150 posted on 09/26/2015 7:08:57 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hi, 2D! Thank you for the response! Mystery solved.


151 posted on 09/26/2015 7:10:47 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK; VinL

I thought I was on my thread about this, not VinL’s. I didn’t even look. I posted this hours ago.


152 posted on 09/26/2015 7:12:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Windflier
“Oooh look! A chink in Trump’s armor! We’ve got him now!”

That's it! Trump has peaked, for the 15th or twentieth week in a row!

153 posted on 09/26/2015 7:13:11 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: scottinoc
Glad SeeBS is taking a sudden interest in conservative values.

"SeeBS concern trolls"

154 posted on 09/26/2015 7:14:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: AzNASCARfan

I think Trump is the only person that has any possible chance of making any real changes to fix the problem and change the way Washington works.

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Respectfully, I disagree in part. Trump has raised some excellent issues. But, as you indicate, he is not overall conservative- and if he’s not, he won’t fundamentally change the GOP establishment. If one doesn’t demolish the establishment, then although Donald may build his Wall (which is good), ultimately the COC, GOP-e will just bide its time and then build a thousand doors in the Wall. That’s what this establishment Politburo does. They will wait him out, and un-do whatever he had accomplished that was to the establishment’s disadvantage.

Trump isn’t ideological, he’s not a political strategist. He’s a business man. He will attempt to get his vision of things past the GOP-e, he might even dominate the establishment for a season, but he won’t take it out.

Cruz will- he’s doctrinaire- and his mission is to be for the constitutional Right, what Obama was to the Left. Yesterday, Oklahoma Congressman Jim Bridenstine siad-——

“We’re going to get new leadership in the House of Representative,” he said. “It’s happening because there’s a newly elected senator that showed up and started articulating principles that were consistent with the Republican platform.”

Now, of course, choose who you will-— but, that’s the reason I support Cruz over Trump.


155 posted on 09/26/2015 7:16:30 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: Hostage
Ted Cruz is hands down the champion of Constitutional Conservatism. There is no one that even approaches him in this regard.

Which is pretty much the ONLY regard that really matters. The only hope for restoring the Constitutional Republic is in the Constitution.

156 posted on 09/26/2015 7:19:07 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Hostage

Bull shit!


157 posted on 09/26/2015 7:22:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: VinL

Good question. I could have sworn I saw a post saying this made it clear Cruz would be winning the nomination before the March 15th primaries.

Sure can’t find any evidence of it now.

I did find a reference to Trump getting the nomination by the 1st of March.

The article I thought I read was longer. I apologize for the mistake.


158 posted on 09/26/2015 7:30:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No worries.


159 posted on 09/26/2015 7:35:07 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

Probably bothers me more than you.

I don’t like doing that.

I could have sworn I saw one guy trying to make hay out of this survey.

Thank you.


160 posted on 09/26/2015 7:36:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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