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Trump, on the subject of health/Obamacare said flatly ‘Sorry Conservatives...”.

Yes he did say that. He said it when referencing the 45 million uncovered individuals.

Norm, I am also sorry Conservatives, but there is something we have to come to terms with. WE HAVE ALWAYS COVERED THE UNINSURED!

If someone showed up at an Emergency Room, they received care. They were admitted if they had to be.

Isn't it a good idea to reduce the government exposure to these sorts of outlays?

My statement is true. It does not matter one inch if we get to Obamacarelike healthcare with Barry or Donald.

Norm, you may actually think that, but if you consider this, I think you'll see enough to make you rethink that perception.

We have 320 million U. S. Citizens. We're talking about 45 million uninsured. That means that 275 million are insured, or have some form of coverage. Reduce those on Medicare, and you have the number of people privately insured. (There may be anohter segment or perhaps a few I've missed), but this is roughly the big picture of insured people.

If 75 to 80% (roughly) of our populace is insured, isn't it a plus if they remain covered under a private sector environment? Obamacare was moving this 75 to 80% onto a single payer system, the federal government.

You don't think a private sector plan is better? Seriously? You know it is, so it's simply not true that health care under Obama and Trump are the same. It matters very much, which way we go there. You know that.

Trump did not propose anything near a free market system.

For the currently insured, he did. Norm, we have to be honest with ourselves. For the curretnly insured, he only offered up a private sector plan. That's the vast majority of our populace.

He said EVERYONE MUST...MUST be taken care of.

Yes, I agree with you here. He did say that.

Norm, everyone has always been taken care of. I don't intend to imply everyone could go in and have elective work done. None the less, the bare essentials were being taken care of.

What do we do about this? Should we still allow the 45 million to simply show up at an E. R. and receive sub-par coverage overall that the taxpayers pay for anyway, or should we look for a way to recuce the cost of coverage for these people while expanding what services they can recieve?

If a $10 or $15,000 dollar deductable policy were put in place for these people, would they have very low premiums? Yes. Would they overuse services? No, because they would have to pay from the deductable portion of thier policy.

What does the deducatible actually accomplish?

1. it provides a minimal policy that would make sure an individual was not left uncovered, for major illness
2. they would have coverage and options not previously available to them
3. it would at the very least cap government exposure to costs related to these people's health care at $10 to $15,000 per year
4. in some instance the insured could pay their own premiums
5. in other instances the government would pick up those premiums (this would still wind up costing less than what it costs today because of capped expenses to the government) THAT'S BETTER, LESS COST TO THE PUBLIC
6. unlike the past, the government's exposure to costs would be limited to the $10 to $15,000 yearly deductable
7. private insurance companies would cover the in excess of the deductable costs

Is this perfection? No. Did we have perfection? No. Could it actually wind up costing the taxpayer less and prividing better service. Quite possibly. Is that a more Conservative approach? Yes

Perhaps when the players come together and devise a plan, they can actually come up with something far superior to this, taxpayer exposure and increased benefits available to the currently uninsured.

We shouldn't go kneejerk until we see what they come up with. With the adults in charge, we could easily wind up quite happy with the results.