Posted on 09/21/2015 7:19:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) did not back up his fellow Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson when asked about the retired neurosurgeon's comment that Muslims should not be president of the United States.
"You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am a constitutionalist," Cruz said at a Sunday taping of Iowa Public Television's "Iowa Press," according to the Des Moines Register.
Carson on Sunday morning told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he would "not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation." In an interview with The Hill later on Sunday, Carson stood by his remarks.
"I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country," he told The Hill. "Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution."
Although Cruz weighed in on Carson's comments, he would not criticize Donald Trump for failing to correct a town hall audience member who said President Obama is a Muslim.
"My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God. What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record," Cruz said when asked about Trump's comments on "Iowa Press," according to the Des Moines Register.
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The point he missed is that Islam is not just a religion, it is also a political ideology. If one follows the Islam faith the political and religious beliefs are not separate.
Cruz is still denying the obvious:
1. Islam is antithetical to America.
2. Islam is irreconcilable with America.
“Apparently that “natural-born” clause has become pretty elastic, with some grave misunderstanding of just exactly what it means.”
The Naturalization Act of 1790 defines “natural-born” precisely — children born of citizen parents (plural).
They can run, but people don’t have to vote for them. Sadly, the campaign slogan would be “vote for me or you are an islamaphobic”.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...
This isn't exactly the model of clarity. The traditional practice would have been: "Go draft a treaty with Iran, and bring it back for us to approve it." That is the best way of conducting business. But from a strictly legal standpoint, it does not appear to preclude the directive of "We direct you to go work a Treaty with Iran" as being the "Advice and Consent of the Senate." I think the Corker bill was foolish and very bad policy. I think it was a mistake for Cruz to vote for it. But I don't think it would be found unconstitutional.
The fact that they are not a religion of peace is the big secret.
Doesn’t congress take that oath also? There are Muslim congress critters. It’s ok for them to lie to further Islam.
Ben Carson is right, a Muslim president actually IS a bad idea, according to the Koran
sgberman.com ^ | 9/21/15 | Steve Berman
You are assuming that they are honest Muslims. They’re not. There are Muslim invaders in Europe now claiming to convert to Christianity so that they won’t be declined refugee status.
“But I don’t think it would be found unconstitutional.”
I did not say it was unconstitutional, but it overrides the Constitutional provision on its face. The reason I say that is that it only takes 51 votes to defeat a bill. The Corker bill requires a 67 no vote to defeat the bill; in other words, the bill is presumed to be law unless defeated by a super majority. Where do you think they got the 67 (2/3 number) from?
In the US we are doing the same thing. Eventually, schools will be closed for Islamic holidays.
One change that Muslim students have obtained at several public universities is a prayer room. Praying five times a day is a requirement in the Islamic faith, with four prayers occurring in the latter half of the day. The University of California, Berkeley has a meditation room that Muslim students and others can use for prayers. Meanwhile, students at the University of California, Davis, Henry Ford Community College (Mich.), the University of Portland (Ore.), and other public universities have exclusive prayer rooms.
The arguments against prayer rooms ignore the fact that the First Amendment also protects freedom of religion and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in favor of accommodations, as long as they do not coerce or disrupt other students.
Interestingly, students at Benedictine University (Ill.) and Trinity University (Texas), which are private universities not bound by the First Amendment, requested and received prayer rooms. Trinity, Georgetown, and Syracuse University (N.Y.) also have Muslim chaplains. At private universities, objections included accommodating students who follow a religion other than the universities’ affiliated religion. These universities responded by stating that while they are proud of their religious heritage, they are tolerant towards other faiths, which is evident from the accommodations for Muslims. Since Muslim students must wash their feet before praying, having foot-baths in bathrooms is another common accommodation on campuses, with two dozen public universities installing them so far. For example, Minneapolis Community and Technical College noticed that bathroom floors were wet from students washing their feet in the sinks, thereby leading to floor damage and students’ possibly slipping, so the university installed foot-baths.Students at public universities objected to their tuition dollars being used for a particular religion, yet the university contended that anyone could use foot-baths to wash their feet. Also, the American Civil Liberties Union said that that foot-baths were necessary for Muslim students to practice their religion. Meanwhile, George Washington University is a private institution that installed foot-baths, but also garnered attention for another accommodation: allocating an hour a week at one of its lesser-used pools for women only. While GWU took these moves to accommodate female Muslim students, it said any woman could use the pool during the one hour.
It is only a matter of time before we recognize the religious rights of Muslims to have multiple wives. The Koran allows four.
Islam is a cult rather than a religion. Once they gain control of the government, tolerance for the practice of other religions is generally gone.
I disagree— Even if I were to agree— I could NEVEr vote for any Muslim to be President. I could NOT vote for any known homosexual for the very same reason. Can’t trust EITHER>
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>> “It is doubtful that Islam was even contemplated within this framework.” <<
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Do you have any idea how much of the world was under total Moslem tyranny when this country was founded?
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“So help me God” is optional. Some do, some don’t. 0bama used it on all three occasions. With his hand on Lincoln’s Bible for the first swearing in and then on two Bibles for the second swearing in (Lincoln’s and Rev. M.L. King).
Exactly. You’re not shredding the Constitution if you just oppose a person’s holding that office. There’s no law about it and there shouldn’t be. We went through all of this with Romney.
I learned something. Thanks.
I am not sure how you could possibly stumble to that conclusion. Can a Muslim run for president if he/she meets the requirements outlined in Article II of the Constitution? Absolutely. Would I vote for a Muslim for president? Absolutely not.
But was that intended to apply to Muslims? What was the intended function of that clause? Why is it there?
and does not grant Congress the power to add additional qualifications/restrictions.
It does not specify that the President cannot be a retard. It does not specify that the President must be human. These are regarded as common sense or "axiomatic" stipulations of the office, needing no explicit articulation.
I argue that "Islam" is also one of these "axiomatic" exclusions. That it does not have to be specified because it isn't comprehended by the intent of that "religious test" clause.
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