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To: Longbow1969

Just my view, that’s all

Cruz is like a national treasure. I see him as part of an answer to our prayers He will not be elected. His place is somewhere close to the presidency. But the liv s will not vote for him. We are stuck with people who will not be informed but they’ll vote anyway. They’re not going to vote for Cruz

It’s jeb or Hillary or jeb ushering Hillary in. That’s what the powers that be are presenting. And they have taken control. The clintons and bushes and their supporters and donors have seen to that

Your choices are going to be Hillary v Hillary (that’s what jeb brings) or Hillary v trump

You can pretend it’s different as long as you like.

Whoever gets the GOP nomination are going to get hit with what trump is getting hit with now and they will not withstand it. Because they will be working for donors who want Hillary in.

Fox is working for a bush nomination. Perino and her puppy, gutfeld, kelly and Baer will be so confused when after the nomination they’re told to bail on him and support Hillary

That’s what you have.

You think fiorinas getting in? Cruz? Rubio?

Waste of time

Never

And Hillary will not ever debate. She will never have responsibility for anything she’s done. Nope.


63 posted on 09/19/2015 1:53:16 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I know that, when it comes to die hard Trump supporters, nothing I or anyone else says is going to matter.

My comments about him are mostly directed to those who haven’t made up their mind.

I think Trump supporters are mostly just taking a leap of faith with him without really looking at his record of flip flopping - even as recently as 2012 on immigration (which is supposed to be his signature issue).

I think Trump is a populist protectionist with some nationalism and conservatism (when it’s expedient for him) mixed in, but he isn’t actually a conservative. Nor is he in any way grounded in conservative ideology. Without that grounding, there is no real way to trust his judgment on almost any issue from administrative regulations to court appointments (he thinks his sister would be a phenomenal nominee to the SCOTUS and she is ardently pro-choice).

I also think there is a cult of personality going on here from a well trained realityTV host who knows how beguile an audience.

I’m not willing to fall for it. It is not worth it to me to just blow up the “establishment” and see what happens. It’s like a revolution, everyone wants one but no one really knows the outcome. It’s a matter of being careful what you wish for. If I believed Trump were a real conservative, that would be different - but then if he were a real dyed-in-the-wool conservative I doubt the media, academia and the entertainment establishment would have given him a pass all these years. Right now Trump takes flak, but he is still a novelty to the left - a person that at least half of them hope gets the nomination cause they think he’d be easy to beat.

I do understand the feeling of deju-vu, the inevitability thing. The “establishment” wanted McCain and low and behold that is who we got, same for Romney, and now many people on the right feel that a deep loathing that the same thing will happen with Jeb unless he is stopped. Part of me agrees, though Reagan did break the mold in 1980 and McGovern did the same for the Democrats in 1972. We are not condemned to the media’s outcome, though I know it feels that way.

I’m just not willing to take a flier on Trump and hope for the best. He simply isn’t a conservative. He may have good intentions, but too many of his statements and previous positions tell me he is just not a real conservative and therefore I just can’t trust what his solutions would be for “taking our country back”.

I would say this though. I am not sitting out. I am not going to take my ball and go home if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the nomination. If Trump does win, I will be all in for Trump. The risk/reward on Trump versus any Democrat makes that an easy decision. Whoever the GOP nominee is, I am going to support that person because yes, in a general election it really is a choice between the lesser of two evils most of the time.


67 posted on 09/19/2015 2:18:12 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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