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To: stanne

I know that, when it comes to die hard Trump supporters, nothing I or anyone else says is going to matter.

My comments about him are mostly directed to those who haven’t made up their mind.

I think Trump supporters are mostly just taking a leap of faith with him without really looking at his record of flip flopping - even as recently as 2012 on immigration (which is supposed to be his signature issue).

I think Trump is a populist protectionist with some nationalism and conservatism (when it’s expedient for him) mixed in, but he isn’t actually a conservative. Nor is he in any way grounded in conservative ideology. Without that grounding, there is no real way to trust his judgment on almost any issue from administrative regulations to court appointments (he thinks his sister would be a phenomenal nominee to the SCOTUS and she is ardently pro-choice).

I also think there is a cult of personality going on here from a well trained realityTV host who knows how beguile an audience.

I’m not willing to fall for it. It is not worth it to me to just blow up the “establishment” and see what happens. It’s like a revolution, everyone wants one but no one really knows the outcome. It’s a matter of being careful what you wish for. If I believed Trump were a real conservative, that would be different - but then if he were a real dyed-in-the-wool conservative I doubt the media, academia and the entertainment establishment would have given him a pass all these years. Right now Trump takes flak, but he is still a novelty to the left - a person that at least half of them hope gets the nomination cause they think he’d be easy to beat.

I do understand the feeling of deju-vu, the inevitability thing. The “establishment” wanted McCain and low and behold that is who we got, same for Romney, and now many people on the right feel that a deep loathing that the same thing will happen with Jeb unless he is stopped. Part of me agrees, though Reagan did break the mold in 1980 and McGovern did the same for the Democrats in 1972. We are not condemned to the media’s outcome, though I know it feels that way.

I’m just not willing to take a flier on Trump and hope for the best. He simply isn’t a conservative. He may have good intentions, but too many of his statements and previous positions tell me he is just not a real conservative and therefore I just can’t trust what his solutions would be for “taking our country back”.

I would say this though. I am not sitting out. I am not going to take my ball and go home if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the nomination. If Trump does win, I will be all in for Trump. The risk/reward on Trump versus any Democrat makes that an easy decision. Whoever the GOP nominee is, I am going to support that person because yes, in a general election it really is a choice between the lesser of two evils most of the time.


67 posted on 09/19/2015 2:18:12 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

I am no die hard trump supporter

No no

I am looking at our country and this election

Clintons waged a clash of the Titans in 2000 expecting to get al gore in there providing them access. Gore was a doofus and still almost got in.

It’s like that now only worse. There is so much power behind the scenes that we don’t see

What we can see is that none of them represent us. None that can get elected none that the media who have SO much control are going to allow in

Trump. Listen to what I am saying I always say this too. Trump may get in there and become a maniac dictator for all we know about him. I am not a die hard trump fan

I’m not

But we have Hillary v bush which is Hillary. Or we have Hillary v trump. That’s it

If you see a different scenario. Share it with us


68 posted on 09/19/2015 2:30:01 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Longbow1969

I’m a half-hearted Trump supporter and haven’t seen The “cult of personality” aspect- at least no more than whoever is ahead seems to attract.
But I pondered your idea with the effort your reasonableness deserved and I believe I see an emotional response to the vicious and aggressive way he deals with the media.
Rationally, that kind of behavior towards such a predatory enemy is only good strategy of course. But one also tends to feel good- in general- about someone who successfully pursues a difficult but necessary course.


84 posted on 09/19/2015 6:27:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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