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To: rikkir
As much as I love Cruz, I have to say Rubio won the debate on style, and information conveyed.

This election hinges on one thing and one thing alone. Immigration. There was only 1 candidate willing to build a wall and the same candidate wanted to implement an active deportation program. That's the guy that won the debate.

All the other chatter you heard or good points made are moot. We have no country if we don't control the border. And without a wall that will work to deter illegal immigration no matter who is in the White House then as soon as another Communist/Democrat gets in illegal immigration will start again full force.

Without a deportation program to show that we can get rid of large numbers of illegals as soon as an American loving President gets in office then the illegals will bide their time on the otherside of the border and make a run for it as soon as a Democrat gets in office. However, a successful deportation program will make them think twice, because they will know their stay is only temporary until a true American returns to the Presidency.

So you can nitpick over how someone appeared on foreign policy questions. But what difference will it make if in 8 more years we make the final slide into communist hell hole?

I wish it weren't true but there is only one candidate with a hardline stance on immigration so far and that is Donald trump the rest are "we can't deport", "We need comprehensive immigration reform" (ie. Amnesty followed by more illegal immigration when a Communist/Democrat gets in), or "We need to increase H1B visas". Fortunately or unfortunately that one Candidate is Donald Trump. He is also the only Candidate that has shown he can manipulate the media even when it's hostile to him. Therefore he is the only Candidate with the skills to actually get something done and side step media approval

By the way Chris Christie had some pretty good moments so am I supposed to forget the love fest he and Obama had after the Hurricane that pretty much stabbed Romney in the back and put the final straw in the collapse of the Romney campaign? I don't think so.

100 posted on 09/17/2015 1:13:40 AM PDT by stig
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To: stig

Ok Stig, immigration is your issue.
Being a Cruz supporter it’s one of mine as well, and the whole H-1B issue, is a non issue because Cruz only supports it if salary requirements increase. Just like Trump.
However immigration is not my only issue.
I had 3 when the election season started. Abortion, 2nd Amendment, and Immigration.
But I start a debate from the position of Joe 6 pack, with no opinion, and grade from there. I try and see it with a clean set of eyes.
My scoring is based on more than content.
After it’s all over I still like Cruz.
But if I’m a voter hearing Trump for the first time, he didn’t convince Joe 6 pack voter very well tonight.
Maybe everybody in America knows what Trumps position on immigration is. But honestly, if they didn’t did they learn any thing about it tonight?
Or any other position he has?
That’s what I think the debates are for.


136 posted on 09/17/2015 1:51:01 AM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: stig

wow. Good post. you get it . Trump is the one

I posted this to Trump bashers not to you but shows some other things only Trump is saying but i need to add some of what you said . good post :

What have politicians DONE that is pro American or conservative? Nothing but destroy the USA. so they lie and give speeches to play to the conservative crowd but never do anything and you fools keep believing the lies.

None of you trump bashers and lovers of corrupt politicians never have answered the question:

What have U.S. politicians ever done that is conservative or for America at the national level? I’m talking as in passing a conservative law that reduces government that really has an effect on reducing government , reducing the debt, really stops illegals etc what? I’ve seen nothing only the opposite as in the Iran deal and Obamatrade.

politicians have destroyed the USA. and you still trust them?

Trump can’t kill a dead corpse.

All these politicians are corrupt and owned by foreign interests and rich internationalist donors which give $15 million dollar donations at a time.

Trump is not owned by anyone. did any of the others say they don’t take those $10 million dollar donations? No they didn’t . Only Trump again.

This is why none of them ever say anything against China or Mexico.But only Trump says something against China and Mexico.

Also Trump is the only one who said he will deport illegals. The other politicians play to the conservative crowd but then betray American citizens who voted for them . These politicians have never done anything for U.S. citizens nor anything conservative.

Just 2 recent examples: All the politicians voted for the 2 most anti-American things ever . The Corker bill which made the Iran deal unstoppable (Iranian nukes) and TPA which makes obama trade unstoppable

Trump has 60% in the Drudge poll, that’s more than all the other 10 dwarves combined LOL

Only Trump is not owned . Only Trump doesn’t want to enrich himself with a long political career as he is a billionaire and 69 years old.
Only Trump has a chance at performing the overwheliming task of resurrecting a dead USA. My vote goes to Trump.


153 posted on 09/17/2015 6:02:40 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration and Amnesty to the USA)
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