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To: volunbeer

I don’t necessarily disagree with your take on this.

While I do think Wall Street and corporate America deserves to take it on the chin, both are potential champions for healthy Capitalism as well.

Thus I’m not a frothing at the mouth anti-Wall Street or Corporate critic. Some folks don’t realize these entities must exist.

It’s like the loan industry. It needs to be kept healthy by inside and outside players.


93 posted on 09/13/2015 11:53:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am not anti-capitalism. However what we have now is crony-capitalism of the worst kind. Are we controlled by a moral leadership class that has our best interest at heart or by puppets with banksters pulling the strings.

The facts are undeniable when we look at it from a new perspective and it all revolves around the debt and government spending. Both parties have “pumped” money into the market “to save the market” through quantitative easing, stimulus, and increased government spending.

Where did that money go? Did we invest in our future or mortgage our future to preserve a failed system? My best guess is about 10 trillion of our debt has been devoted to saving the system. Where is the new infrastructure? Where are the new jobs? Where are the results that benefit everyone? They are not there - all we (and our children) are left with is a crushing debt to save what? Our standard of living has DROPPED despite 10 trillion dollars in spending!

The principles of conservatism are grounded in moral governance within the rule of a moral law. What is moral about the scam that has been perpetrated on the American people?

Is’nt it time we asked ourselves why we have a uniparty? What changed with the GOP taking over congress? Very little. We must ask why! What changed for me and you with our nation taking on 10 trillion (again - my best guess - probably even more) in debt? We are not talking about spending a few years of our income for something like a house. We are talking about many years of our entire GDP! It’s insane. It’s immoral and unethical. We are enslaving our children to the benefit of corporations, globalists, banksters, and hedge funds.

Again, like communism on paper, our model should work on paper. A wealthier economy should lift us all up, but it’s undeniable that it has not worked for even a majority of Americans despite spending like we have never seen before! Just like the concept of communism, maybe our free-market capitalist ideas discounted the greedy and power-hungry individuals among us who are immoral. We have elected them even as they are owned by the banksters. We have been sold a lie FRiend - it’s not the concept or idea that is wrong. If executed properly by moral men, our wealth should lift everyone up, but it has not.

Many folks who supported the tea party seemed to understand this idea even if they can’t put it into words. Many who supported “occupy Wall Street” seemed to understand it even if they can’t put it into words and the idea was represented by idiots defecating in the street.

We have been sold a lie. To me and you, it was framed as free-market capitalism. To the left it was framed as helping the poor. It has helped neither and greatly harmed our nation and it’s future to the benefit of a few.

We are not supporting the idea we both believe in - capitalism. We are supporting a lie. We are supporting an illusion that is framed in language we like, but in reality is something far more sinister.


95 posted on 09/13/2015 12:28:04 PM PDT by volunbeer
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