Marines to release study questioning women's role in combat [Less effective than all-men units]

CS Monitor ^ | 09/10/2015 | Anna Mulrine

[SeekAndFind]

An experimental Marine Corps study obtained by the Monitor has concluded that units with both men and women are less effective than all-male units.

The results of the experiment, known as the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force (GCEITF), could be used by the Marines as grounds to ask for an exemption to the combat exclusion policy, which currently bars women from taking part in direct combat.

The services have until January to open all jobs to women, or ask Pentagon leaders for an exemption by October.

The GCEITF included roughly 200 male and 75 female volunteers, who were evaluated on how they performed a series of physical combat tasks between March and May.

The results of the study come on the heels of news last month that two women passed the Army’s grueling Ranger School and earned their Ranger tabs.

The Marine Corps’ conclusions have sparked criticism from female Marines and others, who argue that the study was poorly conducted and biased toward a belief that men are biologically and psychologically built to be better fighters.

Indeed, efforts to integrate combat units constitute “social engineering,” Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, a former Marine infantryman who served as Director of Operations on the Pentagon’s Joint Staff before he retired, argued in an op-ed this week that was widely seen as laying the groundwork for the Marines’ experimental task force study release.

In introducing its conclusions, the Marine Corps cites the “the brutal and extremely physical nature of direct ground combat, often marked by close, interpersonal violence.”

[ChicagahAl]

There are plenty of very effective female pilots.

And you base this statement on what?

[G Larry]

I’m not guessing.

This info supposedly came from a senior NCO at the camp.

[Do the math]

In a dog fight, the pilot who can withstand the most G’s wins, given that all other things are equal. No woman can handle the G force of a same sized man. It is foolish to let women fight in combat. No real man wants to put woman in harms way.

[MSF BU]

Oh well...another battle lost...for now.

[MSF BU]

Points well made and worth making. This would not be happening were Bastonge, Pusan, Tet, Guadalcanal, etc. taken into account.

[MSF BU]

I have read Van Crevald but I have not seen anything along these lines. Citing your sources would be good. I absolutely agree with the premise that the gals cannot cut it.

[Mr Radical]

I can only apologise, I don’t have the source but it was most likely a magazine article around the time of the Yom Kippur War, such as: Interavia International Defense Review; Interconair Armies and Weapons; or Ian Allan Battle Magazine.

[MSF BU]

It’s become a moot point. It will take a president who is quietly intent on reversing these trends in the military and aside from Cruz, I don’t see anybody who would do that. Paul, Kasich & Rubio are likely personally not bothered at all by the feminized and homosexualized policies.

[MSF BU]

That was a long time ago. I’ve read the same points though many times and my own experience moving between all male and sex integrated units confirms it.

[The Westerner]

You’ve made excellent sense. The fact is that men have much higher levels of Testosterone which changes both the way the brain and body function. What common sense and observation tell us, modern science elucidates.