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[[Not salvation without repentance. You theory has that major flaw. He died without repenting.]]

really? So everyone who dies, dies without ‘repenting then’? There are none righteous, no not one- which means IF a man can lose his salvation, then that means salvation relies on an unrighteous ‘promise’ to God and unrighteous acts by man- EVERY man woman and child of age has unrepentant sin when they die- you can NOT die perfectly sinless- IF YOU could then you would NOT need Christ for salvation as salvation would be entirely a works effort by the person

It’s not my ‘theory’ that has a major flaw-

Where is your cutoff point for how many ‘unrepentant sins’ a man can die with and still be saved? A man can NOT repent of all his sins- it’s impossible, that is why it wa absolutely necessary for Christ to die on the cross- because ONLY Christ could be perfect-

Is there a ‘sin scale’ that you use to determine which unrepentant sins are ok, and won’t bar a person from heaven when they die, and which ones aren’t?

are ‘little sins’ ok, while big sins aren’t?

When your fictional person died, He died WITH Christ in his heart - this same Christ who covers ALL our sins- who’s death was sufficient to cover ALL our sins, past present and future- just as the bible states- you character repented when he became saved- repentance simply means a change of mind about who is in charge— it does NOT mean a promise ot never sin again as the heresy of lordship salvation teaches

If Christ Redeems us, and then we lose our salvation later, then Christ’s redemption is powerless to save eternally- but that is not what the bible teaches- it teaches that His death and resurrection are sufficient- no other act is needed for salvation- no effort on our part is needed-

as well there are no verses in God’s word that ever state God will ‘unforgive us’- none-

The bible is also very clear about NOTHING being able to separate us from the love of God in Jesus Christ- Nothing! No created thing, including ourselves can ever separate us from the love of God when we are saved-

Also, in John 10:29, Jesus tells us “And I give eternal life to them; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.” No one includes me and you

John 6:39, “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.”

That verse alone assures us we can not lose our salvation- otherwise Christ would indeed lose some of those whom God gave Him- making Christ a liar in that verse- and since we KNOW Christ can not lie, we know that whomever calls upon the name of the Lord for salvation shall never again be lost- we are secure in Christ- He tells us so Himself, personally!

IF Jesus fails to do the will of the father, then He sins- and what is the will of the Father? Yup- to make sure that NONE of those who accept Him are lost- So your character in your extreme example IS STILL saved when he dies no matter what he does on this earth- IF he loses his salvation as you suggest, that makes Christ a liar, a failure and a disobedient Son - Your theory’s major flaw is that if a saved man dies ‘unrepentant’ and loses their salvation, then Christ has FAILED to raise up to glory that person whom God had given Him at salvation