Is Kim doing this for Christian reasons or political?
I understand her as a Christian not wanting to sign gay marriage licenses. I’m fine with that. I support that.
Yet
She has no right to stop the deputy clerks from signing marriage licenses because of HER belief. The deputy clerks have the right to THEIR OWN beliefs and whether they want to do the job they were hired for.
Kim is seeking her 15 minutes.
[[Is Kim doing this for Christian reasons or political?]]
Neither, she’s doing it for patriotic reasons- The government can’t simply trample the rights of we the people like it has- and she, using her religious freedom rights, is taking a patriotic stand against a tyrannical government/Supreme court because no one else will- Many people have taken such stands all down through history in defense of our constitutional rights-
She has no right to stop the deputy clerks from signing marriage licenses because of HER belief. The deputy clerks have the right to THEIR OWN beliefs and whether they want to do the job they were hired for.
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No marriage license is required at all. Wait til the IRS tax man starts to figure this out!
Kim Davis is following the law - see this post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3334150/posts?page=13#13
Excerpt:
So no marriage license is needed and those who are requesting them should stop asking.
Pretty much.
There is no Constitutional requirement for a State to have any marriage laws whatsoever.
SCOTUS just invalidated all the state marriage laws based on the definition of marriage being the union of one man and one woman.
[[She has no right to stop the deputy clerks from signing marriage licenses because of HER belief]]
She actually does because HER name is on the licenses- this was the thing she objected to- She didn’t want her name associated with gay marriage licenses- The licenses are all presigned with her signature on them,- She merely asked that new licenses be made up WITHOUT her name on them- the state refused- and so she is now In jail because she would not obey the courts ILLEGAL demand
Do you understand that when her deputy clerks issue them, they stamp HER name on them? Every pervert faggot "marriage license" will have the word's "Approved by KIM DAVIS" on them.
Are you okay with your real name being stamped on pervert faggot "marriage" licenses? If you are not, then perhaps you should consider that a lot of people do not want their name put on such a disgusting document.
And this doesn't even address the larger question of how Christians should deal with vile and anti-Christian laws which are pulled out of the @$$E$ of the five lunatic Judges on the court.
I am sick of people saying that this law should be obeyed. No, this law should be defied in every possible way to establish that there are LINES which no one is obliged to cross merely because the law says so.
The Nazis had the law on their side too, but we saw fit to put people on trial for obeying their laws.
The idea of a deputy is one who is acting under the delegated authority of someone else. So the deputy clerk is a legal extension of Kim Davis. That's why her name is on the forms. It is still by her authority the licenses are being granted.
Furthermore, she has an obligation to resist evil, within the sphere of authority God has granted her at this moment in time. It is what is called the doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate, formulated during the Reformation in Germany. Basically, no human law can trump God's law, such that no matter how high the authority issuing the corrupt law, lower authorities are obligated to use what power they have to fight back, up to and including defiance.
For example, if a law were passed tomorrow which said killing bald men was legal, we would all be under obligation to resist that law, agreed? But why? Because we all know under the principles of natural law, baldness is not a condition that justifies taking a human life.
Law is always ultimately grounded in some moral principle. If that moral principle is sound, the law has moral authority. If that principle is depraved, those who fear God more than men must resist it, and yes, even when it affects others within their sphere of authority.
Peace,
SR
As county clerk her name is on the licenses no matter who issues them which she feels says she's approving. I see her point. What's she's asking for is her name to be taken off such licenses.
She is the clerk and legally signs the licenses. The deputies are not in step with law. She should not play footsies. She is the clerk and she signs the certificates. Gay marriage is illegal in KY. She does not need accommodation she needs to stand firm and issue heterosexual license since that is legal and her duty as elected. If she keeps up this religious accommodation nonsense she will accomplish nothing and in jail for nothing.