Shackled at the ankles with her head bowed, the moment defiant Kentucky county clerk...

Daily Mail ^ | 9/3/15 | Sophie Jane Evans

[Ray76]

Legal.

Do you support laws regarding consanguineous marriage?

Do you support laws regarding child marriage?

[Mrs. Don-o]

"White House press secretary Josh Earnest said 'the success of our democracy depends on the rule of law, and there's no public official that is above the rule of law'."

This is nonsense. In the first place, this law itself is unlawful. The U.S. Constitution says that marriage in in the domain of "the several states," not of the Federal government. The U.S. Supreme Court had no jurisdiction to compel the deconstruction of natural marriage in the 50 states.

The real shame is that the whole burden of upholding *Kentucky* law is falling on the shoulders of this lowly, solitary County Clerk, and not the Governor of KY. Governor Steve Beshear ought to have instructed every County Clerk in the state, that their Oath is to uphold *Kentucky* law. Beshear failed to do this, and ought to be impeached.

Secondly, Mr. White House Press Secretary, why don't you look into the Sanctuary Cities perps, hmmm? ... and keep your nose out of this one.

[Alberta's Child]

I don’t support any laws that purport to regulate the institution of marriage. Marriage is a religious sacrament, from my perspective.

[Ray76]

So you accept “marriage” between a 50 year old male and 72 13 year olds.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That’s the law -— KY definition of marriage —— and it is both admirable and enforceable. That’s the law Kim Davis took an oath to uphold.

[MortMan]

We disagree, FRiend.

SCOTUS set up a trap where a non-enumerated “right” specifically contradicts an enumerated right. When Kim Davis asserts her enumerated right, if she can be compelled to resign or violate her asserted right, then there is no right to freedom of exercise of religion.

The existing laws in KY do not support issuance of homosexual “marriage” licenses. Under the SCOTUS ruling, they are deemed unconstitutional, and therefore void. There is no authority for KY to issue marriage licenses of any kind in this situation.

But beyond this, I can’t help but see that the full weight of government vengeance is not aimed squarely at anyone who holds to a christian orthodoxy.

SCOTUS, through the person of Bunning, has imprisoned a woman for exercising a right enumerated in the first amendment. And they call this “the rule of law”.

[Alberta's Child]

I wouldn't "accept" any of it -- from either the 50 year-old male or the 72 teenagers.

Here's a better, more relevant question:

If your state legislature passed a law recognizing a "marriage" between a 50 year-old man and 72 thirteen year-olds, would YOU accept it?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Did it. Thank you.

[Ray76]

You previously said “I don’t support any laws that purport to regulate the institution of marriage.”

Which is it, do you or do you not support laws regulating marriage?

[Alberta's Child]

Let's be clear about something here:

I don't believe for one moment that Kim Davis has done anything wrong here. And I have said on any number of occasions that if I were in Judge Bunning's shoes I would have thrown the case out of Federal court on the grounds that it is a Kentucky matter, not a Federal matter.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"White House press secretary Josh Earnest said 'the success of our democracy depends on the rule of law, and there's no public official that is above the rule of law'."

This is nonsense. In the first place, this law itself is unlawful. The U.S. Constitution says that marriage in in the domain of "the several states," not of the Federal government. The U.S. Supreme Court had no jurisdiction to coerce the deconstruction of natural marriage in the 50 states.

To blame? Well, for starters, I BLAME THE GOVERNOR. The real shame is that the whole burden of upholding *Kentucky* law is falling on the shoulders of this County Clerk, and not the Governor of KY. Governor Steve Beshear ought to have instructed every County Clerk in the state, that their Oath is to uphold Kentucky law. Beshear failed to do this, and ought to be impeached.

[Alberta's Child]

If some dude wants to claim that he's married to 72 teenagers, and there are 72 teenagers our there who agree with him, then who gives a sh!t?

If there are criminal statutes related to statutory rape, then that's a whole different story.

[Ray76]

> If some dude wants to claim that he’s married to 72 teenagers, and there are 72 teenagers our there who agree with him, then who gives a sh!t?

Got it. Thanks for clarifying your position.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I don't think she should resign. She was elected. She took an Oath. That Oath involved upholding the law of the State of Kentucky, which is what she is doing.

If she were to resign, she would be saying that the new USCC judge-made "law" is right and that she regretfully cannot uphold it. And that's wrong. She is upholding her election. She is upholding her Oath. She is upholding the law.

[Mrs. Don-o]

It's not even simply a matter of the "religious sacrament." The County Clerk is not licensing sacraments. She is licensing a relation based on Natural Law. It applies even to people who don't believe in sacraments.

Marriage precedes the very existence of the state, and is definable even lacking supernatural revelation. The foundational document of our Republic, the Declaration, wisely sources its authority on both God and Nature: "... and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..."

Because God wrote His laws into our Nature, i.e. the simple fact that our species manifests binary sexual differentiation, and our reason tells us what this is for.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I’m stealing your tagline.

[don-o]

Damn but you’re good. I think I love you.

[Alberta's Child]

Can you cite me one principle of Natural Law under which a government should be given the authority to "license" a marriage or similar commitment between two consenting heterosexual adults?

Does A government have any authority to refuse such a license to a couple who is perfectly capable of being married?

[Mrs. Don-o]

The judge needs to turn from his sin in penitential tears.

[biff]

You need to read more, there is an applicable Kentucky law, passed in 1998.