Posted on 09/03/2015 9:37:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
With all of the outrageous and downright offensive remarks that have been regurgitated by Donald Trump over the past few months, the most logical forecast made by political analysts was that his campaign would implode, sooner than later, as so many have before. Like the stock market, Trump 2016 seems to be based on a bubble of irrational emotions in this case fear and at any moment, that bubble could burst. Today, however, its looking more and more like Trumps lead in the polls is not going to burst anytime soon, and that the man who seems to be the perfect manifestation of a stereotypical American a loud, obnoxious buffoon actually has a chance of winning the GOP nomination for president.
This is scary to think about. Not just because of his virulent xenophobia and nationalism, but because of how damaging a President Trump would be to Americas reputation in the world. At the same time, maybe it will take a joke like Trump who, just a reminder, once released his birth certificate to prove that his father was not an orangutan to show just how much of a farce American democracy really is. Trump is creating a dangerous new nationalist movement that is absolutely adored by white supremacists and Tea Party conservatives alike. His big personality may be a bridge between the more extremist right wingers who preach intolerance and hate, and the moderate conservatives dedicated to blindly loving their country.
That being said, if we take a look at Trump, beyond all of the controversial remarks from him and his supporters (i.e. Go back to your country!) and the despicable attack on immigrants, it becomes quite clear that a president Trump would actually be less dangerous than, say, a president Walker. In fact, just about every other major GOP candidate is probably more threatening to progress than Trump.
This is because Donald Trump isnt really a part of the GOP. He doesnt depend on corporate funding and is more concerned with his own ego than the party he is currently running in. While his unfiltered remarks have gotten all of the medias attention, he has also made certain comments that would have probably been enough to kill any other GOP candidates campaign.
Take, for example, his defense of Planned Parenthood. In the midst of the hit job on the womens health organization, as every other candidate was jumping on the bandwagon to defund the entire organization, Trump correctly said that the abortion services were a very small part of Planned Parenthood, and that they do undeniably important work for women. Compare this to the supposedly moderate Jeb Bush, who said that the organization is not actually doing womens health issues. Theyre involved in something way different than that, which PolitiFact.com fittingly rated Pants on Fire.
When it comes to economic issues, Trump is also very different than his GOP competitors, and is more or less running against the GOP orthodoxy when it comes to taxes. Last week he almost sounded like a progressive when talking about the tax code:
I would change it. I would simplify it. I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think its outrageous. I want to lower taxes for the middle class.
When asked about paying more taxes himself, he affirmed his willingness:
I do very well, I dont mind paying some taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country. You know the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys, but I know people in hedge funds that pay almost nothing and its ridiculous, OK?
Compare this to the basic GOP talking point of lowering all taxes, including those for the hedge funds guys. When Rand Paul and Ben Carson come out with a flat tax program, they promote it is a gift to all taxpayers especially the middle class but really it is a gift to the richest of the rich. Trump is running against this GOP dogma and the creepy Grover Norquists Taxpayer Protection Pledge, which has long had a hold on the GOP. Whether a candidate promising to raise taxes on the ultra-rich will be able to withstand this force will be interesting to see.
Beyond these issues, Trump has opposed cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and also, as was made so very clear at the first debate, previously supported universal healthcare and opposed the war in Iraq.
Trumps bluntness and independence, along with his big mouth and unapologetic nativism have so far proven to have lasting power, at least with the GOP base. The reactionary movement that has grown louder over the past few months, however, may end up being much more dangerous that Trump himself embracing his nativism and nationalism while ignoring some of his saner policies that could actually help the middle class.
Trump winning the primaries is still a long shot. And hes even more of a long shot to win the national election. But the scary thing is that America would probably be better off with a president Trump than any of the other major GOP contenders, who are either puppets for their corporate masters or wholly controlled by their dogma (i.e. Mike Huckabees Christian chauvinism).
The fact that Trump is the most progressive of GOP candidates, at least when it comes to certain policies, simply shows how very backwards the GOP actually is. Of course, Trumps supporters dont much care about policies, and this may be why he is still doing so well in the GOP field. According to a recent poll, 66 percent of Trump supporters believe that President Obama is a Muslim, while 61 percent are not convinced that he is American born. So the majority of his supporters are basically conspiracy theorists operating in the fantasy world of Trumpland. They dont really know what he supports, but they know that hes tough and doesnt seem to like immigrants or Muslims so hes their man. Again, the nativist movement that Trump has given energy to may be much more dangerous than Trump himself but when compared to the GOP at large, Trump is only a minor villain to progress.
But the Left thinks Trump is less problematic.
Exactly BECAUSE it is Salon.
Not at all an accurate assessment of Trump
There you go again posting bs articles!
Nevada is a heavy blue state?
The Left is COUNTING on Stephan Colbert to carry the water for Hillary this winter, and next fall.
Colbert takes over the late show, and “test” vid of Colbert mocking Bush has already surfaced.
I ASSURE YOU that he will NOT be mocking Hillary. AT ALL...
They are noticing that Trump is actually a liberal.
Leftists figuring out that Trump is actually a liberal too
Probably because the media think that broadcasting Trump's speeches, etc., would kill his support. So far, it's not working that way. Whowouldathunkit?
I think they give him all the coverage because they have to. He's been leading them around by the nose. The fact that their ratings jump whenever them mention his name is just an added benefit.
Meanwhile: “Scott Walker is in freefall, falling into 8th place with only 3 percent support.”
I told you so.....;>)
“How about a time-out to watch the new Walker campaign video: FIGHT and WIN “
How about a time out to check the new Monmouth Poll out today showing Walker at 3%. I don’t think winning is in his future. LOL!
“Hes doing a 10 county ride and meet Sunday and Monday through New Hampshire.
As we chit chat, hes in his second day of a 3 day swing through Texas.”
Thank God you are keeping up with it as no one else is. :-)
Trump is centrist to moderately right leaning on economic and social issues. Interestingly, the nationalist parties in Europe tend to be like this too.
I think a lot of people who want to stop the immigration invasion of the West have got sick of economic and social conservatives’ support for open borders globalist politicians.
The reality is that the most hardcore classical liberal type conservatives and “religious right” types have embraced open borders in deed and often in word as well. It tends to be the more moderate conservatives, Reagan Democrats and populists who are defecting over the immigration issue.
This is causing a crisis in the American conservative movement. Younger right wing Americans in particular are questioning traditional conservative economic and social dogma in light of the unwillingness of conservative leaders to address immigration(not to mention corporate cronyist corruption) forthrightly. The fact that corporations and other wealthy interests are 100% on the side of open borders, as are most Evangelical leaders, is causing many to turn against those people and their pet issues. I have heard a lot of this kind of talk lately from 20-somethings. Some of these people are active in conservative and Evangelical organizations too, but are sickened by the incompetence and selling out of the leaders.
Economic and social conservatives need to get their heads out of you-know-where quickly or they are going to find they have no supporters left under the age of 40. Even Bernie Sanders, an open socialist, endorsed lowering immigration levels. For crying out loud. The world has gone mad, or maybe just the GOPe has gone mad. When socialists are outflanking the Southern Baptist Convention on immigration, you know something is seriously wrong.
He has or does support gun laws, partial birth abortion, theft of private property and universal health care.
I dont NEED George Soros’s Millions...I have my own
I live in the Houston area and I’ll tell you there is concern about the border BIG time by the average Joe and across the board.
Those of us who live in border states really “get it.” I don’t know that Trump does, he just tripped over his feet and then ran with it.
Perry takes a lot of c#ap about the border but I do believe that he would have closed it down. But his time passed. I’ve seen what Walker has done in Wisconsin against the odds and in the face of screaming, vile leftists mobs and I know he will do what he says.
I don’t understand why Walker has not gotten more traction. I know he made some comments in favor of amnesty years back, but they were mindless throw away remarks. His conversion seems fairly credible to me, it’s not like he has a long time close association with open borders fanatics like Bush and Perry do. Should have used the d-word though. That’s “deportation.”
What Walker did with public employee unions and is trying to do with higher education will have to be done on a nationwide scale if we ever want to crawl out of the fiscal gutter.
I don’t trust Trump on immigration, frankly. Trump is a lifelong opportunist who I think might say anything to get elected and then do a 180.
If anyone knows the history of Alberto Fujimori in Peru, he ran for president on an anti-market based economic platform and then did exactly what he campaigned against once in office. He used a populist stance to beat a much more principled man whose policies he then stole. That sort of thing is common in many countries. Both Trump and Fujimori are high IQ types who had careers outside of politics.
I have zero confidence that he would govern as conservative, zero.
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