AFTER SUPREME COURT ORDER KENTUCKY CLERK WILL NOT ISSUE GAY MARRIAGE LICENSE

9/1/2015 | Self

[Nextrush]

It happened in Kentucky minutes ago with Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis explaining to a gay couple why she would not give them a marriage license....

Cameras were there......

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

-— At least since SCOTUS ruled that the Civil Rights Act supersedes religious scruples against serving all races and creeds -—

How can anyone know if a “homosexual” is a homosexual?

There isn’t any objective measure. Even self-reporting isn’t objective.

[RasterMaster]

Last time I checked, tyrants in black ribes do not make law. Nor does an imposter posing as a President. Congress as well as state legislators make law, and tthe matter was already decided and signed by BJ Clinton. The majories of state legislatures also decided.

The ONLY unconstitutional part of the matter is when the Kenyan muslim-in-cheif or the black-robed dictators try to step over their Constitutional boundaries and INVENT law.

[Diamond]

but our preference has been defeated in the US legal system. And current law must obtain until and unless a future SCOTUS majority decides otherwise.

Does the phrase, "The laws of nature and of nature's God" mean anything to you?

Cordially,

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.freerepublic.com/~eateroftoast/

[DBeers]

I am scratching my head... What the hell is a "traditionalist" doing arguing in support of an imposed progressive novelty premised upon homosexual couplings?

Maybe his/her tradition is subservience to leftist tyranny?

LOL

[Yashcheritsiy]

I agree with her position on marriage, but don’t think that a govt official, acting in their official capacity, should be imposing their religious beliefs on others. If she doesn’t want to provide/process the licenses, why can’t she just have someone else in her office do it?

The sodomites trying to force her to give them a marriage license could go to any other county clerk in the state of Kentucky. They are purposefully targeting her to try to make an example of her.

[Yashcheritsiy]

Choosing God over Caesar is a good thing, but if Caesar pays your salary then you do what he says or find another job.

We hear this line all the time, but it's actually a really, really bogus argument.

Government officials can "opt out" of things all the time if they disagree or can't do something in good conscience. In the military, there are conscientious objectors who can "opt out" of certain types of service if they are pacifists, etc. Indeed, since the law changed *after* she had already been elected, the argument that she either needs to violate her own conscience or else "find another job" sounds dangerously close to violating the Constitution's ban on religious tests for office - in short, you can't tell someone that they have to violate their own conscience before they can hold a government position.

[HiTech RedNeck]

In the Founders’ time, a general biblical ethic was considered to be a normal and good thing, not a specially “religious” thing.

If there was a failing, it was in assuming that this would always be the case.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And even to a judge in that same county. Like the baker situation, she was not sitting on a monopoly commodity. She is the focus of malice drummed up by drama queens.

[Southack]

"It happened in Kentucky minutes ago with Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis explaining to a gay couple why she would not give them a marriage license.... Cameras were there..."

Yes, cameras were there because it is a setup.

She's going to have another religious "conversion" after she's set up enough conservatives for a fall.

Then she'll paint everyone who defended her in a bad light.

It's a trap.

[Read Write Repeat]

Jews don’t follow the ‘old testament.’

The Jewish view on homosexuality is concerned with the act not civil marriage (which isn’t recognized by God), and the Jew can repent for such acts. I’m not going to give Hebrew lessons on a thread like this, but do know ‘death’ as a penalty is commonly interpreted by Jews as ‘away from God.’

There were Jews in this country before the Declaration of Independence. Early settlers came here for religious freedom.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/amsterdam.html

If ever there is a Jewish president, the ‘no working on the Sabbath’ would apply to Friday night sundown to sundown on Saturday.

There is nothing in the US constitution or the Declaration of Independence establishing Christianity as the official religion of this country.

[Theophilus]

In the US justice system, secular law supersedes God’s

No, rather "secular law" undermines the US justice system which suffers witches, not only to live, but to sacrifice millions of unborn American babies every year.

Now, more than ever before, the punishment is the crime and you can be quite certain that the crimes of this guilty, land: will be continually perpetuated with our own precious and innocent blood.

Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Don't brother treading on me, I'm already my own worst enemy.

[DiogenesLamp]

You don’t really address the point of the message to which you are responding; That Abraham and Sarah having children when it was impossible to do so is the reason that society accepts marriage for non-fertile women, and has incorporated the practice into it’s laws.

[DiogenesLamp]

What can have the force of law, and what can be cited in court is entirely up to the subjective opinion of activists judges, but that is beside the point.

It proves you wrong, and that is the point. You can't very well argue that a government excludes religion when the Top deity in the excluded religion just happens to be specifically referenced in the National Charter.

And by the way, what year is it? From what event are we measuring the years? What does Year Zero represent?

Too many people have learned a false history taught to them by people who didn't like the existing social structure and set out to deliberately change it, mostly with lies.

The reason we measure our years from Jesus is because of the importance to which he was regarded by the vast bulk of the society originating from Europe.

Christianity was as ubiquitous as Oxygen in those days, and it would have never been regarded as necessary to keep reminding everyone that the government was founded on and was expected to follow, Christian Principles. It would have been akin to constantly pointing out that the "Sky is Blue" and "Water is Wet."

In 1787, there were several states that still had official religions. This bit of fact is completely incompatible with the modern understanding of the relationship between church and state.

[Theophilus]

Yep, it’s tough for any American person whose personhood get redefined away at the whim of a few unelected SCOTUS laywer class demi-gods.

[DiogenesLamp]

Yep, it’s tough for any American person whose personhood get redefined away at the whim of a few unelected SCOTUS laywer class demi-gods.

Yes, the 14th Amendment is indirectly responsible for the murder of at least 50 million people since 1973.

[eater-of-toast]

Good thing for you you’re wrong, else Obama could turn the US into an Islamic state simply by signing a bill and dating it “AH” (year of the Hijra).

[DiogenesLamp]

Yes, 2000 years of established legal/social foundations and Obama signing something are exactly the same thing.

[eater-of-toast]

2,000 years of “tradition” (and there are all kinds of traditions, eg religious pluralism vs burning heretics) don’t determine US law. What’s legally determinative is the text of laws, not some intentions that you self-servingly purport to divine. And you’re wrong that “the Founders” intended the US to be a Christian state. Various Founders had various views. For example, Jefferson and Madison both denied Jesus’ divinity, disparaged Christianity, and detested the intertwining of religion and state.

[Theophilus]

else Obama could turn the US into an Islamic state

I wouldn't rule that out. Anything to appease Iran you know.