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To: usconservative

I am not willing to overthrow the government, at this point, except by ballot. I’m old and sick. Please let us know your plan. maybe I’ll send a check. in the meantime, I don’t want employees imposing their religious beliefs on employers. If it’s e]serious enough people will resign or disobey and go to jail to make their point.


109 posted on 08/31/2015 8:01:24 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: morphing libertarian
So again, you're demonstrating the problem. You sit comfortably at home not willing to make any sort of personal sacrifice to regain the liberties that have been stolen by this Government.

It also appears you're somewhat agnostic (if not a flat out athiest) because you don't want to deal with those who have strong religious feelings and a personal moral code by which they operate.

I won't ask if I have that right, I'm sure I do.

Shame on you, and shame on those who come after you who refuse to sacrifice in any way for their freedoms. You do not deserve the freedoms that so many have fought, bled and died for.

114 posted on 08/31/2015 8:05:54 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: morphing libertarian
You put forth a strawman argument. This is not an issue of employers imposing new rules on employees, this is an issue of 50 states being forced to bow to the will of people who think they have the power of a dictator.

In all states, including yours, ballot efforts to normalize homosexual marriage were defeated. This court is ruling us against established law, and against consent. It only gets away with it because of the rampant apathy and stupidity infecting the country.

We have become the New Rome, and everyone is enjoying their bread and circuses too much to pay attention to doings that will very well affect them in the future.

This is how this sh*t crept up on Germany. We now have a court that functions as an "enabling act" for the dictators of the left.

130 posted on 08/31/2015 8:30:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: morphing libertarian

The notion that religion is being forced on others is something I associate with anti-religious propaganda.

Some employers didn’t like employees to ‘force their race’ on them either but the law accommodated them in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

I wish we could be a country where religious folks who say ‘gays will go to hell’ can live in peaceful co-existence with those who say ‘religious hypocrites should go to hell’.

But there’s a conflict going on and the anti-religious gay marriage forces are winning the fight with the levers of government.

The balance between the two sides doesn’t exist right now.
One side is shoving it in the others face.

I don’t support the current situation created by the USSC ruling.

There are serious questions when the notion of resistance-disobedience to the USSC gay marriage ruling comes up.

But the political system backed by elite business-corporate contributors want gay marriage and no protection for those who oppose it including the small business owners.

What options are opponents left with???? The Republicans and Democrats will not reverse it.

Opponents of gay marriage are indeed being marginalized and forced out of government employment like this marriage clerk position.

Based on what’s happened in Canada and Europe, it only goes downhill from here.


181 posted on 09/01/2015 1:51:49 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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