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To: jpsb; Behind the Blue Wall; Fantasywriter
Wow, just wow. So you do not think it is a proper role of government to protect the nations borders? Wow.

Of course that is the federal government's role.

But, unless you understand why both Republicans and Democrats want illegal immigration, you will not stop it.

One of the main drivers of demand for illegal trespassers is crony capitalism.

Agree?

Now, if you want to end the DEMAND for illegal trespassers, you need to do more than build a wall, etc.

Those are good things, but not enough. Like drugs....if you don't stop the demand, the flow will continue.

Now, my question is this: If crony capitalism is one of the main drivers in the demand for illegal trespassers, how do you stop that? By electing a man who made his fortune via crony capitalism?

271 posted on 08/31/2015 6:19:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Trump - He likes progressive taxes and criticizes Walker for not raising taxes in WI)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The name of the game is not dodgeball. Here is the quote I called you on:

‘Once you drill down, illegal immigration is desired by those who feel government has a role in all things in life....jobs, poverty, civil rights, healthcare, etc.’

How about explaining that bit of lunacy, rather than changing the subject?


281 posted on 08/31/2015 6:33:31 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Erik Latranyi; Fantasywriter
Trump is a reformed "crony capitalist" Lol, He was a real estate developer. Not a true blue crony capitalist like the criminals on Wall St that get granteed tax payer dollars.

To a certain extent your are correct Big Business (the real crony capitalists) want cheap labor so they buy politicians (2cd leg of the crony capitalist stool) like Jeb and Carly to see to it that the borders remain open. The Rats go along because illegal overwhelming vote for the communist Rats. And of course the media (third leg of CC stool) being mostly Marxists pander to illegals too. So you have correctly identified part of the problem.

An even larger part of the problem is all the benefits both state and federal that illegals get. I am pretty sure an illegal has to commit fraud to collect federal benefits. Prosecuting illegals for fraud would go a long way towards reducing their numbers. Prosecuting employers would also go a long way towards reducing their numbers. Neither of the two solutions above require new federal law. Building a border wall would reduce the in flow and would also send a message that illegals are not welcome here.

Schools are a local issue but long ago you had to be here legally in order to register your child for school. If that is no longer the law then change it so illegal children can not attend school here.

I find the "there is nothing we can do" attitude of many here very disheartening. Those that came before us did not have such a sorry attitude. We'd better put our Big Boy Big Girl pants on and solve this problem so the next generation gets an America something similar to the one we got.

292 posted on 08/31/2015 6:53:41 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Erik Latranyi
By electing a man who made his fortune via crony capitalism?

Mainly capitalism, not much crony. Cato doesn't like Trump at all but they admit he is a capitalist, not crony capitalist other than his two attempts to eminent domain in the 90's to take land (both failed).

310 posted on 08/31/2015 7:21:14 AM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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