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1 posted on 08/29/2015 7:34:15 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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during former President George W. Bush’s attempt to privatize the program

Attempt? I remember a couple of weak speeches without specifics and then a quick retreat when he got some pushback.

2 posted on 08/29/2015 7:37:47 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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Doesn’t matter whether Americans like SS or not.

In it’s current form, it’s unsustainable


3 posted on 08/29/2015 7:38:08 PM PDT by LMAO (#BlackLivesMatterWhenItsForPoliticalPoints)
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What a crap article.


13 posted on 08/29/2015 7:51:05 PM PDT by onona (something pithy this way comes)
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I heard today that Ben Carson wants to raise the retirement age. That’s fine if you work a government desk job. Try telling a waitress or a roofer that they have to work until 70 before they can start to get some of their money back.


18 posted on 08/29/2015 7:51:56 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt)
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Two years ago a study of the policy preferences of the very wealthy found many contrasts with the views of the general public; as you might expect, the rich are politically different from you and me.

I thought Krugman was rich. Go figure,

22 posted on 08/29/2015 7:59:08 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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(1) The retirement program is, of course, both extremely popular and a long-term target of conservatives, (2) who want to kill it precisely because its popularity helps legitimize government action in general.

Wrong on two counts.

1. Republicans don't want to kill it because it's popular. They want to kill it because the funds are abused by big spending government hacks.

The funds are not put in an interest bearing account. They are spent as quick as they come in on just about anything under the sun.

Further, a privatized Social Security system would end the government exposure to unfunded mandates.

Further, a privatized Social Security plan done right, would cover retirement, medical care, and have a number of other perks tossed in that could improve the lives of those with the new plan.

2. Nobody in their right mind today, things the current government plan is something to be pointed at proudly.

25 posted on 08/29/2015 8:01:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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Sec Sec should be private like in Chile..


30 posted on 08/29/2015 8:10:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Trump with an endorsement from that noted conservative Paul Krugman.....


33 posted on 08/29/2015 8:15:18 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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The Establishment wants to end Social Security so they can use our tax money to support another 20 million illeagals.


35 posted on 08/29/2015 8:21:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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Paul Krugman needs to put this in his pipe and smoke it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)

Then he needs to tell the world we can’t afford to support all the people who want to come here...


36 posted on 08/29/2015 8:25:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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I don’t always agree with Paul Krugman.

But I think he is right in many ways the political establishment is beholden to the wealthiest individuals.

They support corporate welfare for powerful corporations that don’t really need it but want to cut Social Security benefits.

As you can imagine, they’re deeply loathed by average Americans.

Who rightly think they don’t represent them.

And for the record, Social Security is not welfare, its an earned benefits retirement program. People work all their lives to save for their retirement.

Its often their own only source of income and I’m repelled by politicians who say they should wait longer for what is rightfully their money.

No wonder the Republican Party has a brand image problem with middle and working class Americans. Its not standing by their side.

You don’t have to like Trump’s populism to understand few care if the rich pay more in taxes.


37 posted on 08/29/2015 8:25:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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We don’t need any advise from Krugman


38 posted on 08/29/2015 8:26:20 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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The Dems are the ones who keep cutting social security.

Then they tax it.


39 posted on 08/29/2015 8:31:47 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Social Security was intended as an insurance plan not a retirement plan.

It was a socialist plan for everyone to contribute to a fund that would provide a pension for those unfortunates that outlived their resources.

Crooked politicians, longevity due to medical advances, and declining birthrates have wrecked the system.

40 posted on 08/29/2015 8:33:20 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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Paul Krugman ,columnist for the New York Times, wrote: Mixing LIES with truth is an often used tactic of DemocRATS.
If it was really so popular, the WHY is Galveston Texas still refusing to give up their private retirement system, that they had to option to set up and 'opt out' of Social Security ?

The government raiding of the fictions 'Lock Box' is WHY the Social Security Trust Fund is in such terrible shape.

But let's REMEMBER WHO BROKE the Social Security System !

Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are "Collapsing the System".
And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM". They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!

Lets review: So Democrats,
Sen Mark Kirk's statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ... It's not our fault that DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund.
Let's remember ...

44 posted on 08/29/2015 8:40:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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As Herbert Stein said: “If something can’t go on forever, it won’t.”

Economics is actually VERY simple.


48 posted on 08/29/2015 8:54:43 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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Who are they trying to kid?

They’re all New Deal Democrats, or should I say New Deal Socialists, including all of those now running for president.

And still, Socialist Security remains completely unconstitutional.

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

— James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution


56 posted on 08/29/2015 9:17:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Donald Trump is a symptom, not the cure.)
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Democrats love to put forward lies as truth. And Big Media reports the Dem lies as truth and then they are repeated as truth. The Republicans need to get a handle on this or the R brand is dead.


70 posted on 08/29/2015 9:46:05 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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A long time lefty buddy at work is a Trump supporter.

Mostly because of free trade.

76 posted on 08/29/2015 10:25:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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Retirees fixed income should be tax exempt. It’s all most have and the pinch gets harder and harder with the advancement of Keynesian mandated inflation.


95 posted on 08/30/2015 3:39:32 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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