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Less than 20 of the 177 Waco bikers arrested after shootout still face charges
Guns.com ^ | 8/29/2015 | Jennifer Cruz

Posted on 08/29/2015 6:17:21 PM PDT by Elderberry

The Texas Court of Appeals has determined over the last week that officials had probable cause in only five of the 177 arrests following a shootout between two rival biker gangs and local, state and federal authorities outside of a Waco restaurant in May, with just over a dozen more cases set to be reviewed over the next two weeks.

Among those still facing charges are a Bandidos chaplain and a husband and wife. Officials also found probable cause against Bandidos members Marcus Pilkington, 36, and Reginald Weathers, 43, who ascertain they are “being illegally confined” and authorities lack sufficient evidence to prove they engaged in organized criminal activity the day of the shootout, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported.

Nine men were killed during the exchange of gunfire that day and another 20 were injured. Authorities confiscated more than 475 weapons, including 151 firearms. No innocent civilians or law enforcement were injured during the shootout.

The incident remains under investigation, which is headed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, but a great deal of questions still remain, including who fired the fatal shots, which authorities have yet to disclose. However, Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman confirmed in June that a total of 12 rounds were fired by three Waco officers that day, leaving the remaining rounds at the hands of either the bikers or state and federal authorities.

At last count, 44 shell casings were recovered from the scene, including multiple .223 rounds, but ballistics evidence has not been made public at this time, despite the fact that autopsy reports were already released earlier this month, including vague descriptions of the injury-causing projectiles.

Weathers said the whole incident unfolded over a dispute about a parking space and a perceived act of disrespect, but while the melee initially involved the bikers, it’s unknown when authorities engaged.

According to Weathers, he and more than a dozen other members were outside of the Twin Peaks restaurant, while numerous members of the Cossacks, a rival biker gang, were near the patio area. A member of the Cossacks allegedly yelled at Bandidos club President David Martinez, saying he could not park in a particular space, but Weathers said he had not even pulled into the space at that point. Weathers, feeling his club president had been disrespected, then told the Cossacks member not to talk to his president that way, to which that member responded by punching Weathers in the face, he alleges.

Weathers said he covered his face in a defensive stance, but was soon pushed to the ground. Moments later, he heard gunshots, what he described as a “double tap.” Weathers was shot in the arm, but admitted that he did not know where the first shots came from because he was engaged in a fight with other bikers at the time.

Weathers said altogether the entire incident only lasted about four or five minutes.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bikers; chain; copcycle; texas; waco
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To: mac_truck; Salamander; don-o; Pelham

Do you have a personal story for us regarding wallet chain fights.....I’m all ears....spit it out

Your big fights and all

I gotta hear this.


61 posted on 08/30/2015 1:30:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (White boy wiggers in pickups with Cope and Rebel Flags and cowboy rap....FMR)
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To: Salamander
"We’re also having that tattooed on our asses."

I'll have that done locally. It'll cost too much to have my ass mailed there. Besides, I'm quite fond of it and would hate to lose it (like those who dared set foot in the friendly confines of Waco).

This thread makes me thank God I've never ventured further in than Longview while on two wheels . . .
62 posted on 08/30/2015 5:12:01 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Salamander

Nice!

Just ignore the mouth breathers and window lickers.


63 posted on 08/30/2015 5:18:47 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: wardaddy
No...I'll leave the story telling to you big boy.

However the fact remains however that wallet chains can used as weapons and some are even marketed that way. doubles as a weapon

64 posted on 08/30/2015 6:14:23 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: House Atreides

65 posted on 08/30/2015 7:01:27 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit; Elderberry

The original poster asked it be pulled. Yet it endures. Ridiculous.


66 posted on 08/30/2015 7:13:25 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

67 posted on 08/30/2015 7:21:34 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

So you are OK with using FR to spread misinformation?

All righty, then.


68 posted on 08/30/2015 7:37:07 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Salamander

“Skinny jeans”

Shouldn’t be worn by fat chicks.


69 posted on 08/30/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: don-o

They don’t pull all the stuff posted by conservative treehouse. That website’s blogging on Waco has consistently attributed facts to news articles that aren’t found in those articles.


70 posted on 08/30/2015 9:08:17 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Prove it.


71 posted on 08/30/2015 9:13:50 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Elderberry

Obviously, from his viewpoint, the shooting was coming from the bikers, not the police.

“After being shot, Weathers reportedly ran to take cover behind cars near Don Carlos restaurant. Police arrived quickly and told everyone to get on the ground, he said.”

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/appeals-court-rules-two-bikers-were-jailed-with-sufficient-probable/article_3c6947a1-d898-5bf2-aa40-b384be33caed.html


72 posted on 08/30/2015 9:41:23 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: USNBandit
They don’t pull all the stuff posted by conservative treehouse. That website’s blogging on Waco has consistently attributed facts to news articles that aren’t found in those articles.

Then you should have no problem pointing out examples to back your claim. (Not stuff from the comm boxes.)

73 posted on 08/30/2015 9:52:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o; USNBandit

I'd like to see that too.

And this "they". Who they? Here?

But in comparison, this riding the short bush going out to lunch conspicuously lacking french fries (no joy) article, in comparison, would remain?

That Festivus. Is that a crappy holiday, or what?

74 posted on 08/30/2015 9:54:44 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...and you could bet the tobacco they grow in Peking & Your Gold Teeth, on that...)
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To: USNBandit

I posted several times in the past how CTH will distort facts to make clickbait. A bunch of dudes have been suckered into believing them.


75 posted on 08/30/2015 9:57:39 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Add enough extra skinny to match (and then add some more) and they're good to go

home

but not to my house

unless they get their own moped,

and bring beer, you know, the usual.

To The Last Whale

76 posted on 08/30/2015 10:00:07 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...and you could bet the tobacco they grow in Peking & Your Gold Teeth, on that...)
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To: BlueDragon

“That Festivus. Is that a crappy holiday, or what?”

The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.


77 posted on 08/30/2015 10:01:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
I posted several times in the past how CTH will distort facts to make clickbait.

Post some examples.

78 posted on 08/30/2015 10:01:49 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

CTH had stated that the police had fired thousands of rounds.


79 posted on 08/30/2015 10:03:44 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/21/waco-twin-peaks-shooting-updates-14-police-officers-fired-thousands-of-rounds-on-200-bikers-killing-9-wounding-18-two-thirds-of-those-arrested-had-no-prior-criminal-history/


80 posted on 08/30/2015 10:05:24 AM PDT by TexasGator
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