Posted on 08/29/2015 6:17:21 PM PDT by Elderberry
The Texas Court of Appeals has determined over the last week that officials had probable cause in only five of the 177 arrests following a shootout between two rival biker gangs and local, state and federal authorities outside of a Waco restaurant in May, with just over a dozen more cases set to be reviewed over the next two weeks.
Among those still facing charges are a Bandidos chaplain and a husband and wife. Officials also found probable cause against Bandidos members Marcus Pilkington, 36, and Reginald Weathers, 43, who ascertain they are “being illegally confined” and authorities lack sufficient evidence to prove they engaged in organized criminal activity the day of the shootout, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported.
Nine men were killed during the exchange of gunfire that day and another 20 were injured. Authorities confiscated more than 475 weapons, including 151 firearms. No innocent civilians or law enforcement were injured during the shootout.
The incident remains under investigation, which is headed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, but a great deal of questions still remain, including who fired the fatal shots, which authorities have yet to disclose. However, Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman confirmed in June that a total of 12 rounds were fired by three Waco officers that day, leaving the remaining rounds at the hands of either the bikers or state and federal authorities.
At last count, 44 shell casings were recovered from the scene, including multiple .223 rounds, but ballistics evidence has not been made public at this time, despite the fact that autopsy reports were already released earlier this month, including vague descriptions of the injury-causing projectiles.
Weathers said the whole incident unfolded over a dispute about a parking space and a perceived act of disrespect, but while the melee initially involved the bikers, it’s unknown when authorities engaged.
According to Weathers, he and more than a dozen other members were outside of the Twin Peaks restaurant, while numerous members of the Cossacks, a rival biker gang, were near the patio area. A member of the Cossacks allegedly yelled at Bandidos club President David Martinez, saying he could not park in a particular space, but Weathers said he had not even pulled into the space at that point. Weathers, feeling his club president had been disrespected, then told the Cossacks member not to talk to his president that way, to which that member responded by punching Weathers in the face, he alleges.
Weathers said he covered his face in a defensive stance, but was soon pushed to the ground. Moments later, he heard gunshots, what he described as a “double tap.” Weathers was shot in the arm, but admitted that he did not know where the first shots came from because he was engaged in a fight with other bikers at the time.
Weathers said altogether the entire incident only lasted about four or five minutes.
It became a fact later on FR. The nutriders made it so.
The part where some nutrider says he's gonna get "subhuman" tattooed on his ass was pretty good too.
No, I simply corrected your comment to put it in the proper context, then responded.
Watch out for this bruiser, she'll kick your butt
We're on a biker thread talking about knuckledusters, not women's fashion accessories. This comment is exactly why I corrected your earlier one... context.
I have never seen anyone who uses a wallet chain (mostly bikers and truckers) use one as a weapon in a fight, despite what that lame website you linked says.
Can't really comment on what your experience might have been or whether it is relevant...but the website you're referring to is run by rocker Dee Snider who's spent plenty of time in dive bars on Saturday night.
If you've got a problem with how he markets his wallet chains take it up with him.
“By the way, the writer considers .40 and up to be “large caliber”. “
Thank you for the information. The writer says ‘usually’. The Waco ME designated one as ‘MEDIUM/LARGE’. I think that would most likely be a .40.
“What was the caliber of the bullets that killed the bikers?”
Seven of the bullets pulled from the bodies of the dead were designated “medium” or larger. This excludes the .223.
Two were designated “small”. This would include .22 and .223.
“which I saw from Day 1 was how it was going to be, so there and then told the Princess to go to Hell, and I meant it.”
LOL! You weren’t even on the threads on Day One, or Two or ...
“I have never seen anyone who uses a wallet chain (mostly bikers and truckers) use one as a weapon in a fight, despite what that lame website you linked says. “
How many biker or trucker fights have you seen?
“Yup, a number of them started doing their end zone dance a bit early didn’t they?”
A bunch of suckers with drained hopes willing to fall for any sign of victory in any clickbait site.
“Butthurts followed, but no sign of assumption of innocence in the slightest degree, for any who were arrested that day ,no matter how anyone has tried to be rational.”
LOL. Mostly we have refrained from personal attacks and false information trying to clear up misleading information from clickbait sites.
While at the same time enduring the most vile and graphic sexual attacks and having our confidential information posted.
Assumption of innocence is for the court. If it were true that they had to be ‘assumed innocent’ then there would be no arrests.
They were arrested at a gang war where nine people were killed and except for the police, maybe many more.
They were wearing gang colors.
They were in an on-going war with each other and came from all over Texas to meet at Twin Peaks as a show-of-force.
I assume they are guilty.
The legal system is working IAW or constitution and they will be given a fair trial where their guilt will have to be proven to a jury.
“the CoC is run by Bandidos”
Correct.
“Though I will leave you this; if you want something out of others, here and elsewhere too, then you must be willing to give something worthwhile in return. You’ve had chances for that, but fail each time. I am sorry to learn of your bankruptcy, in this manner. I’m sure it must be painful. “
I don’t give up the truth to conspiracy.
Sorry, my life does not revolve around the personal insults I get here. I just contribute them to a bunch of lowlifes that can’t deal with life.
To need to admit to that in the slightest, is too much for your pride to handle, for you'd have to admit to having been too hasty, and having committed serious blunder, while your ego has been wrapped tightly around enjoying seeking out and finding blunders committed by others.
“I just chalk up you’re being an ass to not being able to deal with the fact that the prosecutors are over-reaching, in regards to this case.”
The FACT is that PROBABLE CAUSE has been affirmed for those that challenged it.
Deal with it.
The prosecution hasn't over reached, as evidenced by the result of the probable cause challenges.
Not "was on". Although I was at the least, watching things as the news first came here to FR.
Here again this serves as yet more example for how you shift from one thing, to fully equate yet another (failing to notice what it is that you are doing wrong) and have your hyena LOL-ing based upon some degree of error.
Its like a disease. But thank you for being such a recurrent & good example of how not to adequately reason.
There was no evidence presented. There was merely only repeat of innunedo.
Of course evidence was presented at each hearing, that’s how we know a Bandidos “chaplain” transported a carload of rifles and handguns to the Twin Peaks parking lot.
But that wasn’t what I was referring to when I used the term ‘evidenced by’ is it?
I was referring to the fact that probable cause for arrest was challenged and upheld as “evidence” that the district attorney’s office wasn’t overreaching with its charges.
The full post is below. I will interpret it for you.
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'I saw from Day 1' :
You read the posts.
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'so then and there' :
'there' meaning posting on the same forum
'then' meaning at the same time (as Day 1)
Put together it means you posted ON the threads I was onDay 1 which you now admit that you didn't.
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“which I saw from Day 1 was how it was going to be, so there and then told the Princess to go to Hell, and I meant it.”
Really?
I battled Eschoir, billypaul, esrosen & Ash in the beginnings of FR.
TG is a lightweight shoitbird.
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Agreed. But he (or another of the BATF defender-deflector-apologist trolls) apparently whined to the “Principle” and my comments now are reviewed prior to posting. Plus, I’m now suddenly not allowed to “private reply” because I’m “too new”. Go figure.
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