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To: Carry_Okie
Bush, McCain, Romney... Does this translate to something that looks like a Conservative would likely win the nomination now?

Eisenhower, Nixon, Goldwater, Nixon, Ford... Does this translate to something that looks like a Conservative would likely win the nomination in 1980?  Sheesh.

Okay, then you believe that Cruz has the charisma, delivery, and ability to draw Reagan Democrats across party lines.

Can he even draw big Republican numbers?  Not to this point he hasn't.


Perhaps you could win me over on Cheney, but I don't think he hurt Bush.

That wasn't the point. It was that Bush's selection of Cheney did not leave us with a conservative to carry forward, quite the contrary.

Okay, but that isn't what you touched on, so I didn't know what you were addressing.  I do note this observation with some humor, because Bush himself wasn't a Conservative.  Why should we have expected him to hand off better?

Early on I tried to get folks to listen to the idea we should support only a very few candidates this year.

Earth to Doughty: It's still "early on."

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but people have already bought into the various candidates.  Do you think the Fiorina Folks are going to let go?  How about Huckabee followers?  Name a one of the current candidates you think folks will forsake.

You mentioned his thoughts on the Canadian Healthcare System. You talked about it being a few years back.

You are discounting the quote I offered of Trump praising Xero's team back in 2008, czars and all.

I may have.  I try not to miss things like that.  What is he proposing today?  Is that unreasoned to ask, or point to?  Does it matter that he is pushing a private sector solution?  Does it matter that he wants to drop state lines and allow insurance companies to compete nationwide?  Does it matter that he has said he wants to see competition lower policy costs and broaden the numbers of different polices available?  Evidently not, because I don't see any praise for the direction he sees the nation heading after Obamacare is dumped.  I only see folks continuing to hawk his thoughts from 2000 to 2008.

If he said right now that he wanted to see people covered like Canada or Scotland, would that mean that he doesn't really mean he wants a private sector solution?   Would it mean he wants single-payer?

If so, why does he want state lines dropped and insurance companies to compete nation-wide?  Why would he reference competing costs or a proliferation of different policies?  Is that compatible with single-payer?  


Trump is now polling above Hillary Clinton.

That is NOT a majority. With his negatives, IMO, nor will it be.


If you think Hillary pulling in 300 people at events while trump is pulling in multiple thousands reveals he can't beat her, I think you're wrong.  She's in a field of two, and he's in a field of 17.

269 posted on 08/28/2015 1:58:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Okay, then you believe that Cruz has the charisma, delivery, and ability to draw Reagan Democrats across party lines.

Those who have watched him debate at Princeton say he does.

Can he even draw big Republican numbers? Not to this point he hasn't.

Lack of oxygen.

Okay, but that isn't what you touched on, so I didn't know what you were addressing.

Yes it was, but you missed it.

GWB made a horrible mistake in selecting Cheney as VP, not in terms of ideology, but in terms of physical vigor. IOW even if Bush hadn't made a mess of things (because he wouldn't fight the Slave Party that took him down), Cheney was in no physical condition to run. I was dismayed with his selection in 2004.

I do note this observation with some humor, because Bush himself wasn't a Conservative. Why should we have expected him to hand off better?

He didn't even pick a capable RINO.

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but people have already bought into the various candidates. Do you think the Fiorina Folks are going to let go? How about Huckabee followers? Name a one of the current candidates you think folks will forsake.

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See? I do have a sense of humor!

Does it matter that he is pushing a private sector solution? Does it matter that he wants to drop state lines and allow insurance companies to compete nationwide? Does it matter that he has said he wants to see competition lower policy costs and broaden the numbers of different polices available? Evidently not, because I don't see any praise for the direction he sees the nation heading after Obamacare is dumped.

It doesn't matter if he doesn't mean a word of it, and I don't think he does. Anybody so delusional, poorly informed, or vacillating is unworthy of such the attribution of sincerity, much less integrity. If he has held such past positions, he never addresses why he changed his mind. That's a red flag in my book.

If he said right now that he wanted to see people covered like Canada or Scotland, would that mean that he doesn't really mean he wants a private sector solution? Would it mean he wants single-payer?

To me, it would mean that is what he though his audience wanted to hear. Sorry, I do think the man is that much of an opportunist.

277 posted on 08/28/2015 2:43:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Donald Trump is Ross Perot, with hair.)
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