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To: Baynative

I thought he made it plain that after the border was secure “There has to be a discussion.”

In other words, Congress and the public would need to decide what to do with the illegals already here as well as decide how to do it.

It may or may not be constitutional. It may require additional laws.

At any rate, it seems to be his position that it is not something the president should do unless the congress and the public will support it.

I think he is correct.

I like Cruz and support him, but there is another story here on FR tonight that gives me insight into what is making Trump so popular.

That is: Trump is a leader. Think of General Patton or other war heroes who had the ability to inspire followers.

And then they led the charge.

Instead of a thousand words that put listeners to sleep, they leap up and shout “Charge”.

I have seen the same thing in business, people who got workers to do impossible things because they inspired loyalty.

My point is that both Cruz and Trump have the same goals. Their difference is in how to go about it.


13 posted on 08/25/2015 9:01:13 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

“One man with courage makes a majority.”

Andrew Jackson


34 posted on 08/25/2015 9:18:43 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: old curmudgeon

“My point is that both Cruz and Trump have the same goals. Their difference is in how to go about it.”

Exactly.


45 posted on 08/25/2015 9:30:54 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: old curmudgeon

I totally agree with you about Cruz; I’m still a supporter, and will make my final choice when the nominee is chosen.


56 posted on 08/25/2015 9:50:08 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: old curmudgeon

It’s also why there’s many points separating them in the polls at this point. People don’t want politician-speak anymore.


57 posted on 08/25/2015 9:50:35 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: old curmudgeon

great post! I agree with your assessment completely.


71 posted on 08/25/2015 10:10:59 PM PDT by superfries
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To: old curmudgeon

Cruz actually has said he’ll legalize, but not give citizenship too, illegals.


121 posted on 08/25/2015 11:41:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: old curmudgeon

Cruz actually has said he’ll legalize, but not give citizenship too, illegals.


122 posted on 08/25/2015 11:41:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: old curmudgeon
Bingo. Cue Randy Quaid in "Independence Day": "I been sayin' it and sayin' it---ain't I been sayin' it?"

When in a debate Cruz says "Well I introduced a bill . . ." NO! People hear that and think "That's part of the problem! Nothing gets DONE."

We won't know unless/until he becomes pres, but the impression is that he will get things done. Here's an example: the IRS thing. Congress holds hearings. Nothing. A pres Trump would have at the very least since he couldn't fire Lois Lerner, he would turn the justice department loose on her but transfer her to Pigs Knuckles Arkansas in the meantime.

158 posted on 08/26/2015 3:47:51 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: old curmudgeon
"There has to be a discussion."

RUH-roh

179 posted on 08/26/2015 6:18:59 PM PDT by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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