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1 posted on 08/24/2015 4:18:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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America needs birthright citizenship like I need hemmorhoids


2 posted on 08/24/2015 4:20:41 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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Don't you love how the Left tries to IMMEDIATELY change the narrative.

America does NOT need birthright citizenship of children of illegal immigrants.

4 posted on 08/24/2015 4:22:06 PM PDT by Jim W N
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Just muddying the water. We don’t want to get rid of birth-right citizenship, we want to give it to the children of people here legally.

Saying that the parents have to be here legally is really a pretty low bar. There are lots of ways to be here legally. But if you sneaked across the fence, that isn’t one of them.


5 posted on 08/24/2015 4:22:53 PM PDT by marron
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Pascal-Emmanuel was a senior research analyst for Business Insider Intelligence.

He is also a business and economics columnist at Atlantico, a lecturer at HEC Paris business school and a mentor at startup accelerator programs SeedCamp and Le Camping.

Prior to BI Intelligence he was a reporter at SAI, Business Insider's internet page. His writing has appeared in The Atlantic, Forbes, The Daily, Le Figaro, Rue89, techPresident, The American Scene and even Fashionista.

In a previous life, he co-founded a venture-backed consumer web startup. He has an MSc in management from HEC Paris. He lives in Paris with his beloved wife and daughter.

He's a freakin' Frenchman!

Does France have "birthright citizenship?"

Maybe it does. It also has "no go zones" in cities and suburbs all over the country.

6 posted on 08/24/2015 4:23:02 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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Some say that if they want Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry’s opinion, they’ll beat it out of him with a nail-studded baseball bat.


7 posted on 08/24/2015 4:23:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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If anchor babies are a myth, then why were we talking about “separating families” a couple years ago? Are Mexican adults stealing American children and raising them? Are they adopting American children? If anchor babies are a myth, then deportation will not separate any families.


8 posted on 08/24/2015 4:23:21 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Sorry, This Week and the Left: America DOES NOT need birthright citizenship of children of illegal immigrants.
9 posted on 08/24/2015 4:24:19 PM PDT by Jim W N
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I think that we should discriminate between “anchor babies”, which are presumably from parents who entered the country without following legal procedures and those babies born to legal immigrants.

I realize that the current regime bends rules to the extent that this would not be enough of a distinction. However, this is probably the most reasonable cut.


10 posted on 08/24/2015 4:24:24 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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If Birth right citizenship is so great why is it that none of the other countries have it? Hmmmmm?


11 posted on 08/24/2015 4:25:50 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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As I said, I'm a Frenchman.
That says it all. Say no more.
12 posted on 08/24/2015 4:25:52 PM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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>>So here’s the other odd thing about the birthright citizenship debate: American conservatives saying they want to be more like France. Kudos!

Not everything about France is bad. We just don’t like the Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey part, which is the part that our Progressives want us to emulate. The Conservatives want to emulate France’s proud nationalism.


14 posted on 08/24/2015 4:26:23 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Can I go to Mexico and get welfare, healthcare, and food stamps, etc.


15 posted on 08/24/2015 4:26:56 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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But the point is that birthright citizenship is historically associated with confidence in the national project, perhaps even supreme confidence.

You made that up, Pascal. No one else ever thought that.

16 posted on 08/24/2015 4:27:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Bullshit story.We have not had a hold on immigration since the early 30s(IIRC).It was in place so as to assimilate the last batch into becoming Americans but no more.We are losing our country more and more everyday.This needs to stop now.Send them all back.Every last one of them.


17 posted on 08/24/2015 4:27:36 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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The Week another DC left wing rag not suitable as toilet paper at a biker bar .


18 posted on 08/24/2015 4:28:30 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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IIRC, the number of anchor babies is around 400,000 per year. That does become a major problem when ‘chain migration’ is also an extention of it. Then you get both grannies and gramps and uncles and aunts and cousins coming in.

That seems to average out at about 12 to 20 additional. Many of those get free healthcare, welfare, social services and education.

Yeah, it becomes a problem real quickly — because the rest of us are paying for it/them.


20 posted on 08/24/2015 4:28:59 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Sorry folks. Pascal Emmanuel-Gobry says we need birth-right citizenship, so I guess that’s case closed.


24 posted on 08/24/2015 4:37:06 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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What really needs to end is Marbury v Madison and the supremes uncontested right to have the last word on constitutional issues.
The 14th amendment was never intended to grant birthright citizenship; the status of the parents had always determined the jurisdiction of the infant until the supremes ruled otherwise.
We have 3 branches of government but the branch that was supposed to be the strongest, the legislature, is clearly the weakest. We also have a federal government that was supposed to have strictly limited and enumerated powers, wielding unlimited power over all states and individuals.
Article 5 needs to limit terms of justices and have a mechanism whereby the states can overrule the Supreme Court decisions with a majority.


25 posted on 08/24/2015 4:37:40 PM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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Which is why it's strange to see so much conservative ebullience over Donald Trump's proposal to end birthright citizenship.

It's not very strange at all except to people like the author. For the benefit of this poor, benighted soul, it's because birthright citizenship was never intended for people to enter the United States illegally and drop an anchor baby.

27 posted on 08/24/2015 4:39:33 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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I understand that children born to foreign diplomats who are stationed here are not automatically conferred U.S. citizenship. I think that goes for attaches and other foreign personnel as well.

OK then, precedence has been established. Treat the illegal’s’ babies in the same manner.


28 posted on 08/24/2015 4:41:11 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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