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Blame for Oregon Forest Fires Falls on Feds, Says Logging Industry
GoLocalPDX ^ | Aug. 21, 2015 | Brendan Murray

Posted on 08/23/2015 4:56:04 PM PDT by Twotone

Oregon is in the midst of its third consecutive summer of severe forest fires, and industry professionals say logging limits on federal land are largely to blame.

The fires have already made their costs felt, as the Oregon Department of Forestry has already spent an estimated $25 million to date on this year’s blazes. This comes on the heels of two consecutive severe seasons in 2013 and 2014, the former of which was the most destructive wildfire season in the state’s history.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Idaho; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: fire; forestfires; forests; loggin; logging; wildfire; wildfires
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The smoke haze is all over the Willamette Valley. Such a waste of our forests...
1 posted on 08/23/2015 4:56:04 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Good opportunity for the conservation camps during the depression. The boys were given food and board and work and discipline. My dad and a bro went for a year. It was quite a thrill to be able to help out your family and do this type of work.


2 posted on 08/23/2015 5:06:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Twotone
Smokey in SW Mont.:

link to pic at Big Sky

3 posted on 08/23/2015 5:10:20 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Twotone

http://www.middletownpress.com/general-news/20150819/civilian-conservation-corps-camp-stewart-walking-tour-offered-in-east-hampton


4 posted on 08/23/2015 5:11:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Twotone

You could get a big deduction in forest fire carbon emissions through regime change.


5 posted on 08/23/2015 5:11:37 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Twotone

Feel sorry for all God’s beautiful creatures!


6 posted on 08/23/2015 5:12:44 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: Twotone

the three elements a fire needs to ignite: heat, fuel, and an oxidizing agent (usually oxygen).
As a woodland fire fighter we talked about the fire square.
Take anyone away nd term fire doesn’t spread, fuel heat, oxygen and feds.
The Damn feds would come in and kick everyone off the fire and it could always seem to get away from them


7 posted on 08/23/2015 5:18:55 PM PDT by South Dakota
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To: Twotone

http://www.geomac.gov/viewer/viewer.shtml


8 posted on 08/23/2015 5:20:06 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Twotone

Nature is infinitely more powerful than man. Two modern problems have disrupted natural rhythms:
1. Man’s high-tech interference with the natural course of burns.
2. Man’s expansion into residences in forests.
The two problems are, of course, related.
TC


9 posted on 08/23/2015 5:20:35 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Twotone

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Going as planned!


10 posted on 08/23/2015 5:23:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Twotone
The Chehalis fire that is going on in Central Washington is also a huge fire. Very dry in the eastern part of Washington State (actually, even the western part of WA is very dry, no rain for a long time.

Today, hubby and I were at a Mariner's game in Seattle and there is a very heavy haze in the atmosphere that is a result of the fires in the Chehalis part of the state. Air quality not so hot right now.

11 posted on 08/23/2015 5:27:15 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Sacajaweau
Unfortunately it's like paying people to dig a hole then paying them to fill it up.

FDR's policies destroyed the economy, turning a average recession into the Great Depression. He needed to do something to keep the unwashed masses from marching on Washington with tar, feathers and rails.

While federal mismanagement of the forests has caused this disaster, firefighters have died, houses have been destroyed and untold numbers of God's creatures have been flambed it would be shortsighted to just look at the downside.

Insurance agents will be busier than a one legged man in an a$$ kicking contest, home builders will have a banner year, vehicle sales will sky rocket and animal rescue folks will have all the over time they can handle.

12 posted on 08/23/2015 5:34:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Shoot, we even had a couple of days of smoky skies this summer all the way out here in Iowa.

I heard it was from Canadian wild fires though.


13 posted on 08/23/2015 5:37:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Paladin2

Yep, the west is on fire. That’s exactly the way it looks out my front door this afternoon from fires on both sides of the mountains. Oregon is on fire, Idaho and Montana are on fire, as is California.

As far as I’m concerned you can blame it all on the feds.


14 posted on 08/23/2015 5:39:59 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Washington fire report: http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/wildfires/2015/08/21/evacuation-okanogan-area-tonasket-fire-rages/32103005/


15 posted on 08/23/2015 5:41:01 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
The opposite is more like it. Before man came along there were boom and bust forest fire regimes across the US lasting decades or centuries. Then the indians came and started massive fires. The eastern US in particular was burned a lot. Now we have a lot less fire in general. Sure there are issues with our fire control approach like putting out small fires and ending up larger ones, but for the most part fire is way less than it was.

These facts are all recorded in layers of charcoal that have been dug up and inspected. Here's one of many example studies: http://www.esajournals.org/doi/full/10.1890/060161

16 posted on 08/23/2015 5:43:30 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: rockrr

The Rocky Mountains are full of dead trees from the bark bettle....just waiting for a lighting strike....the federal lands should be given back to the states......National Parks maybe run by the states but own by the Feds...These National Forest Forest Ranger is pretty much a dictator..


17 posted on 08/23/2015 5:47:26 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: South Dakota

Follow the money. Top tier fires reward millions to contractors and Federal employees.


18 posted on 08/23/2015 5:48:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: Eagles6

Throw in that this fits in perfectly with Agenda 21 ... get the rubes out of the country and packed into the “sustainable” pack and stack urban cages.


19 posted on 08/23/2015 6:19:33 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Black Lives Matter has the stench of Ayers, Soros, et al astro turf organization.)
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To: RightGeek

I’m sitting on my mother’s front deck in Princeton BC, and the sun finally became visible through the smoke an hour ago.

It’s brutal for those with respiratory problems.


20 posted on 08/23/2015 7:14:58 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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