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Surrendering a Birthright (The Author shows his ignorance)
Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2015 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 08/23/2015 7:41:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

Republican presidential candidates often invoke Jesus, but lately they sound more like Jehovah. The Old Testament says, "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation." Punishing kids for their parents' sins is the idea behind proposals to revoke birthright citizenship.

Donald Trump started the discussion with an immigration plan that promised to stop letting all those born in America automatically become Americans. Ted Cruz agrees, as do Rand Paul, Rick Santorum, Ben Carson, Lindsey Graham and Bobby Jindal. Scott Walker said he did, but then hedged. Chris Christie is open to the suggestion.

Under established law, a child born here is a U.S. citizen, even if the parents are present without permission. That rule derives from the Fourteenth Amendment, which grants citizenship to "all persons born or naturalized in the United States."

So changing the rule would mean amending the Constitution. Even if that were a serious possibility, it would be a bad idea. Getting rid of it would create a raft of problems without delivering any offsetting benefits.

In the first place, it would consign many people born, raised and educated here to inferior status, forever. They could be deported to countries that many have never seen. Most would stay, because we lack the resources to find and banish them all. But they'd be blocked from full assimilation, lacking any particular reason to be loyal to the land of their birth.

This scenario is not speculation. In the 1960s, Turkish migrants were allowed to live and work in Germany, but until 1991, neither they nor their descendants were eligible for German citizenship. So they were estranged from the rest of the country.

As The New York Times reported in January, this population lived in "tightknit communities largely isolated from Germans except in the workplace. That sentiment of separation lingers to this day."

Likewise, abolishing birthright citizenship in the United States "would lead to the establishment of a permanent class of unauthorized persons," said a 2010 analysis by the Migration Policy Institute (MPI).

If two people born here but deprived of citizenship grew up and had children together, those kids would also be deprived of citizenship. The MPI study estimates that by 2050, there would be a million third-generation "foreigners" living here.

Trump deems birthright citizenship "the biggest magnet for illegal immigration," which is like saying Trump is the main reason people move to New York. Unauthorized immigrants come here in search of jobs or family reunification, not the nearest maternity ward.

Many reproduce, because that is what human beings tend to do, especially if they are young and fertile, as this group tends to be. "Anchor babies," as their offspring are pejoratively known, are the byproduct of unauthorized immigration, not the cause.

A 2011 study by the Pew Hispanic Center reported that only "9 percent of the unauthorized foreigners who had babies in 2009-2010 had arrived in the U.S. in 2008 or later." More than 60 percent arrived before 2004.

Santorum points out that most countries in the developed world don't offer such "enticements to illegal immigration." He fails to note that even without it, the nations of the European Union have millions of unauthorized immigrants. Rich countries have a way of attracting natives of poor nations, even if they try to keep them out.

Anti-immigration groups bewail "birth tourism," in which foreign women travel here near the end of their pregnancies. That practice is rare. There were just 8,583 births to foreign, non-resident mothers in 2013 -- one out of every 459 births.

Trump and others don't realize the change would have consequences for all the children whose parents didn't sneak in. Gregory Chen of the American Immigration Lawyers Association says that today, nearly everyone uses a birth certificate to prove citizenship. Under a revised rule, "you'd need a new bureaucracy to verify each and every newborn child's eligibility."

Americans would have to apply to the federal government just to assure their kids the perquisites of citizenship. If he gets his way, Trump's grandchildren may not thank him.

As policy changes go, this one stands out for a sort of perverse genius: It would tangibly benefit no one, while harming not only unauthorized immigrants and their American-born kids, but also American citizens and theirs. And for all those who can attest with pride that they were born in the U.S.A., it would offer a sour retort: So what?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016elections; birthright; donaldtrump; illegalimmigration; immigration
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To: Kaslin

I tend to agree. The “problem” is that it was enshrined in the 14th and has been with us so long that it is neigh unto impossible to undo.

Where the focus needs to be, once and for all, is a tough immigration policy. The birthright citizenship thing is no more than a politician’s rallying cry and not a serious argument.

Let’s get in there and shore up the boarders, pass and enforce immigration laws, etc. Now THAT will get something done.


21 posted on 08/23/2015 8:19:09 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Kaslin
It was exactly this type of tortured reading of The Constitution that prevented blacks from voting for a hundred years after the 15th Amendment was ratified. "Established Law", anyone?

To wit: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

22 posted on 08/23/2015 8:19:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Vendome

Like I said in the addition to the title; The author shows his ignorance.


23 posted on 08/23/2015 8:20:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Isn't Chapman Townhall's resident liberal Republican?

-PJ

24 posted on 08/23/2015 8:22:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Texas Eagle

It’s a shame however that the American Indians had to wait until 1924 to get American citizenship granted


25 posted on 08/23/2015 8:26:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: RIghtwardHo
No, no such thing is “enshrined in the 14th” in fact, any more than gay marriage or abortion is so “enshrined”.
26 posted on 08/23/2015 8:26:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: BobL
Not unusual for a Chicago liberal such as Chapman.
27 posted on 08/23/2015 8:28:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

LOL, what a friggen loser.


28 posted on 08/23/2015 8:30:04 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Kaslin
Yeah. That wasn't exactly a stroke of genius. Granting scattered nationhood to groups of people within a nation.

Shoulda thunk that one through a little more.

29 posted on 08/23/2015 8:30:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin
Virginia Law Review


30 posted on 08/23/2015 8:32:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Not all authors that write for Townhall.com or whose articles are posted in Townhal.com are republicans. Quite a few are Libertarian.


31 posted on 08/23/2015 8:35:32 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: RIghtwardHo
"Let’s get in there and shore up the boarders, pass and enforce immigration laws, etc. Now THAT will get something done."

Please elaborate:

1. What does "shore up the borders" mean exactly?

2. What is the problem with simply enforcing the existing laws?

32 posted on 08/23/2015 8:35:48 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (We need Cruz. Simple as that.)
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To: Kaslin
Punishing kids for their parents' sins is the idea behind proposals to revoke birthright citizenship.

So, a dad who works in a bank, and keeps his family in their home and their schools and their cars and their vacations by embezzling funds - after his crime has been discovered, these extremists argue that the innocent family members should what? They should keep the fruits of their ill-gotten bounty? How can we punish the children for the crimes of their parents?

33 posted on 08/23/2015 9:50:13 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: Kaslin

“In the 1960s, Turkish migrants were allowed to live and work in Germany, but until 1991, neither they nor their descendants were eligible for German citizenship. So they were estranged from the rest of the country.”

In the UK, Pakistani immigrants were granted citizenship the whole time and they are much less assimilated than Turkish Germans are.


34 posted on 08/23/2015 10:08:14 AM PDT by Empire View
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To: Kaslin
Punishing kids for their parents' sins is the idea behind proposals to revoke birthright citizenship.

Um no it's not, moron. The idea is to stop them from coming here and to make it easier to send them back.

35 posted on 08/23/2015 6:45:21 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The child will have the citizenship of its parents.

How is child being born with the citizenship of its own parents being "punished"...?

36 posted on 08/23/2015 9:59:01 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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