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Retire the Myths; Women Are Ready for Combat
NYT ^ | 8-20-15 | Anu Bhagwati

Posted on 08/22/2015 4:25:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog

The defense secretary has an incredible opportunity to usher in the end of legalized sex discrimination in the military.

As tens of thousands of women have proved over 13 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, women are capable of the combat skills necessary to fight alongside their male counterparts. The question now is whether to give women the opportunity to compete for coveted combat arms assignments, such as infantry and special forces.

Since the Pentagon formally rescinded the combat exclusion policy in 2013, well over 100 women have successfully passed the Marine Corps’ enlisted infantry school and two female officers will graduate from the Army’s elite Ranger School this week — debunking three long-held cultural myths: that women don’t want these jobs, they are mentally and physically too weak for these jobs, and training standards have to be lowered for women to do these jobs.

But as of yet, none of these female warriors can legally be assigned to infantry or other combat arms billets for which they have proved themselves qualified. It’s like surviving the trials of medical school and being told you can’t be a doctor.

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter needs to ensure the following happens going forward if he wants integration efforts to create a stronger fighting force:

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anubhagwati; demagogicparty; memebuilding; militaryservice; misogyny; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; war; womenincombat
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To: PIF
This should shock me but it doesn't: it seems that all of our upper leadership are completely devoid of moral courage.

Anyone with real, actual combat experience knows full well that women would be a distraction and failure points within a combat unit. It seems as though retiring to a 7-figure income is far more important than winning wars and keeping your troops alive.

101 posted on 08/23/2015 3:50:29 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: captain_dave

There are no men in Washington. The rest of the country is fine.

There is no problem filling billets—all branches are turning recruits away. This “issue” is 100% a political mandate. Women already have significant advantages in the military, but the combat distinction has stymied the liberals until now. All stops are off, and this last bastion of masculinity must be abolished before he leaves.


102 posted on 08/23/2015 3:51:51 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (I was mad when they changed Republican states to Red, but I now I see they were right.)
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To: Chainmail

Hey, 7 figures is one thing, but think of all the parties and TV shows!


103 posted on 08/23/2015 4:26:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: smokingfrog

The question I would ask is...if your son or daughter is at risk which gender rescuer would you pick!!!!


104 posted on 08/23/2015 4:37:57 AM PDT by ontap
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To: smokingfrog
Pavlichenko described herself as a tomboy who was “unruly in the class room” but athletically competitive, and who would not allow herself to be outdone by boys “in anything.”

Did she ever marry? Did she ever have any children? She sounds a lot like a Rosie O'Donnell-type.

105 posted on 08/23/2015 4:55:20 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Women with that personality type are not necessarily gay. Some women are athletic, competitive, aggressive, etc. Labeling that behavior in a woman as “gay” does them a great disservice, as does labeling effeminate men as “gay”.


106 posted on 08/23/2015 5:20:54 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: smokingfrog

Really, ladies?

When you’re facing insane Jihadists out in the field, or you’re pinned down by covering fire, or one of hundreds of other really ugly situations that come in combat, you’re not going to get out of it by whining about how unfair it is, right? Screaming about sexual harassment and ‘war on women’ isn’t going to get you out of that situation, except in a very terminal way.

Maybe there are some women willing and able to deal with that, and also to seriously kick some ass too. But none of the girls who I’ve seen complaining about being excluded from combat are those kind of women. All of my personal experiences have shown me that the people insisting on women in combat think that whining is an effective strategy.


107 posted on 08/23/2015 5:26:00 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: jsanders2001
I’m guessing all this crap about sending women into combat is just another population reduction measure just like the homo agenda.

You're right. Some lesbians are going to go to court to make it so that the govt can force women into combat, but women shouldn't allow this to be done to them. Most women don't want to be men. This is just more LGBT garbage. There is nothing about the LGBT movement that is good for society, and it should be suppressed.

108 posted on 08/23/2015 6:04:03 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: PIF

Like Chris Kyle?


109 posted on 08/23/2015 6:28:12 AM PDT by stormer
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To: smokingfrog

BULL
SH*T


110 posted on 08/23/2015 6:34:08 AM PDT by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: stormer

Men are different, in case you missed it. The Russian woman could never be a Kyle, nor should the two be compared. Different wars, different circumstances.


111 posted on 08/23/2015 6:50:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: pepsionice

Yep. The “new, skinnier, powdered & poufed metrosexual”.
For women, the new standard is “skeletal” & they’re mating with “metrosexuals” to produce offspring born waving a white flag of surrender & suckling from the flabby teats of emaciated mothers in their forties, associate professors at some Ivy League “university”, already tenured and not far from retirement to a career “publishing” a load of sex-change crap in some “journal” or the other. - I’m so darned confused (& FAT by today’s “standards”) that I just want to quit; but don’t intend to do so, Lord willing.

It must reek to wimp out & thus load their responsibilities on us “fatties”!


112 posted on 08/23/2015 7:42:07 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: smokingfrog
Let's do this en masse. There was a study done in the 70s that found women will synchronize their menstrual cycles around one member of the group. Now, imagine whole units with PMS--simultaneously.

I am not sure which side would get the worst of that.

113 posted on 08/23/2015 7:46:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: captain_dave
...mothers of our children, in combat against uncivilized killers?...

I think of Rose O'Donnell as a mine sweeper.

114 posted on 08/23/2015 8:05:13 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

...or perhaps prison guard and interrogation specialist.


115 posted on 08/23/2015 8:19:59 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: smokingfrog

Let’s get it over with once and for all. Let the women enlist, or be drafted into the military, let them fill the ranks completely. Send them off to war and see how well they do.

They want it so badly, let them have it.


116 posted on 08/23/2015 9:36:18 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Ann Archy
Yeah,,,,,riiiiiiight. Then I want GIRLS to have to REGISTER with the DRAFT when they turn 18!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS! WHY do guys have to register when girls don’t have to??? NOT FAIR!!!

How about we require NOBODY to register for the draft ? A free country doesn't need a slave army. The volunteer army avoids many ethical issues - like involuntary servitude. When I was in (volunteer in the seventies) the draftees always resented it.

117 posted on 08/23/2015 2:28:06 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: jimt

Oh NO!!!! The GIRLS want to be EQUAL....MAKE THEN REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT that DEMOCRAT CHARLIE RANGEL wants to re-institute!!!


118 posted on 08/23/2015 4:59:45 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PIF

Yeah, you’re right. She killed twice as many, mostly officers, as well as over two dozen other snipers, in a city under siege by a vastly superior force. Really no comparison.


119 posted on 08/23/2015 6:10:31 PM PDT by stormer
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