Posted on 08/20/2015 4:20:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
“How can illegals and their offspring be under the jurisdiction of U.S. when the U.S doesn’t know who they are here, don’t know where they are, don’t know where they are from, and certainly don’t know what they are doing???”
When they commit crimes, are they sent over to their countries of origin, or are they tried in the US courts?
If the US does not have jurisdiction over illegals, they should be sent packing as soon as the crime occurs, rather than try them in the US courts. Diplomats, whom the US does not have jurisdiction over, are sent packing should they involve themselves in a crime.
“And Governor Walker was born in the U.S.A. from American parents, grandparents and great-grandparents—all American on both sides.”
Are you implying that grandparents and great-grandparents being “all American” have any more legitimate claim to the citizenship?
Cruz hasn’t been perfect his entire life?! Need to dump him fast. /s
Trump has changed the way the entire country looks at immigration. I’m sure Cruz either has come along, or will shortly.
The idea that you should not be able to benefit by doing something illegal is a strong part of the law. And IMO a good reason why anchor babies should not be citizens.
OTOH if the government were to say anchor babies are citizens but the families that produce them must be permanently deported (they can either take the baby back to their country of origin or leave it here to be adopted) IMO that would be a reasonable coure of action.
Then a 70 year-old guy who changed his view on amnesty, supply side and planed parenthood last week should make you go...
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Well, I see. Trump was a Democrat before but he has changed his mind. Bush was against common core before he was for it. Walker was for amnesty and now he’s against it. This was 2011 and it’s a gotcha. I still want Ted Cruz. He’s the best candidate for our country right now.
Nothing wrong with Ted. He is still a great patriot in my book. He is entitled to change on his tune on the issues, just like Trump.
Whether birthright citizenship could be overturned by a simple act of Congress is presently best described as a controversial legal position. There are respected legal minds on both sides. Personally I think its possible, but Ted tactically doesn't want pursuit of that to detract from getting the wall done.
Can they be tried for treason?
There are plenty who arrange travel plans to be here - legally - when they deliver their babies, Its called birth tourism and a wall won't stop it.
“Can they be tried for treason?”
They can be tried for a host of other crimes. Is treason the only crime which indicates “jurisdiction”?
“How can illegals and their offspring be under the jurisdiction of U.S. when the U.S doesn’t know who they are here, don’t know where they are, don’t know where they are from, and certainly don’t know what they are doing???”
Not only that, but the feral goobermint does not even try to exercise jurisdiction over them. It allows them to break laws with impunity by ignoring crimes and “catch and release.”
Here’s the start of the 14th amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
I need someone to explain how we can deny citizenship to selected babies born in this country.
“his mother was under US jurisdiction”
What does it mean to be “under US jurisdiction”?
Obama, Cruz, nor Rubio are eligible to be President of the United States. It’s a simple fact, whether one likes them or not.
There was ever only one perfect man—and we nailed Him to the cross.
Those youtubes of Levin:
Thanks. The important phrase is “under the jurisdiction of”. That gets me closer.
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Cruz can say “I’ve evolved.” That was old man Bush’s reason for accepting the veep position under Reagan.
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