Posted on 08/20/2015 3:18:28 PM PDT by knarf
This Just In ...
South Korea sent artillery shells into North Korea after a rocket was fired across the Western section of their border at around 4 p.m. local time on Thursday.
This kind of tit for tat seems to happen a lot
Now that’s funny!!
Nice job Clintons.
NK wants their turn at the negotiating table with obama and Kerry.
10,000 artillery tubes aimed at Seoul.
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ChiaHair Jr. is a wackjob. He reeks of irrational fears.
Makes him dangerously unstable. Just ask the Nork generals Chia Jr. has recently had wacked.
Oh solly, that's right, they are dead. No more hear-y and no more talk-y, in this world.
Must ask somebody else.
All the bad guys know they aren’t going to have a friend in the WH much longer.
The whole deterrent concept of having US forces based on the DMZ is that we will come with massive reinforcements (690,000 US Troops!) to counter the North Korean attack, which is expected to be massive and push far into the south before the US arrives in force and beats them back.
That last part is not likely to happen with a traitor in the WH.
This is the Norths last chance to grab the South and its wealth.
I knew this was coming.
OPLAN 5027 Major Theater War - West
Phase 3 US Counterattack
The US plans are based on the belief that the North Koreans would not be successful in consolidating their gains around Seoul and would be pushed back across the DMZ — though the plans assume the North may break through the DMZ in places. A critical issue is strategic warning of unambiguous signs that North Korea is preparing an attack. The warning time has reportedly been shortened from about ten days to about three days as North Korea has covered its military activities.
The United States and ROK have developed as series of plans to counter a potential DPRK attack. The first plan would be a preemptive strike against DPRK positions to counter an emanate North Korean offensive. Likely targets in a preemptive attack are likely to be artillery positions and bombers before they could be activated. Under this plan, the ROK and the United States, both must agree that a DPRK attack is eminent and that a preemptive strike is necessary.
The second plan would go into effect following a North Korea attack. Since the late 90’s the United States has developed OPLAN 5027, which includes defense of the southern peninsula as well as direct assaults against North Korean targets beyond the DMZ and “defeating them in detail”. This “defeat in detail” is said to include provisions to seize Pyongyang and instituted regime change.
In these provisions, the United States would attempt to bring roughly half of its combat force to reinforce forces already in place. According to the 04 December 2000 South Korean Defense Ministry White Paper, the United States would deploy up to 690,000 troops 160 Navy ships and 1,600 aircraft deployed from the U.S. within 90 days on the Korean peninsula if a new war breaks out
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/oplan-5027-3.htm
South Korea needs to tear down that wall and allow Pregnant North Koreans to give birth in south Korea so their kids can be south Koreans....
Wow, that sounds stupid, so why are WE allowing that sorta crap in our country
http://www.vice.com/read/how-to-prepare-for-a-north-korean-invasion
What would it be like if it did happen?
If the North Koreans did invade, intelligence puts their army at around 1.2 million infantry who would crash the borders at various points. Because of all those landmines put in over the years, we figure they’re going to clear a lane of entry for their troops to punch through using artillery and overwhelming numbers, which means it’s critical the whole line and each piece of real estate is held by each company. If the line is breached at all, we’re pretty much screwed. Their orders are to hold their real estate for seven minutes—no more, no less.
Seven minutes sounds really specific.
That’s exactly how long it takes to scramble bombers to their location so they can bomb it directly. This is why they often call their little grid the “tomb.” It’s ultimately a suicide zone.
That’s pretty heavy. Where are these jets coming from, exactly?
Jets in the present plan would be coming from Okinawa, Guam, and some of the US aircraft carriers stationed in the Pacific. But by the time the jets take off and drop their bombs, there won’t be any airfields to land and refuel at in South Korea, because all of the airfields are strategic North Korean targets and all of their heavy artillery have the range to hit them easily. That’s why the South Korean air force has top-secret landing zones already set up on highways across the country that are equipped to refuel and rearm planes. But apparently North Korean spies have already confirmed all of these highways anyway.
So basically everybody is screwed and the defensive plan is hopeless.
Nobody really expects those companies to hold on for that long anyway. It’s a long shot. They’ll not only be getting their area bombed to hell, but don’t forget, North Korea has something like 130,000 well-trained special forces, and they’ll probably already be landing on the South Korean coast coming up their ass while they’re holding on for seven minutes.
They’ll be do something called “promoting general chaos,” a military tactic meant to shock your enemy’s will to fight by attacking psychological targets like city halls, police bases, radio stations, water purification plants, hospitals, trains, and even grocery stores. There’s also confirmed intelligence that some North Korean troops will be using South Korean uniforms to confuse people. On top of all that there are the tunnels.
What do you mean, “the tunnels”?
They’ve started finding these tunnels built by the North Koreans that I’ve been to myself, that stretch two and a half miles into South Korean territory. We’re talking tunnels wide enough that every hour a whole battalion could be pumped out of it and just start swarming everything in sight.
I’ve heard a lot about the North Koreans and their underground armies. What’s that all about?
The lesson the North Korean army learned from Iraq, Afghanistan, and even the last Korean War, is that the US, South Korea’s chief ally, always has air supremacy. That’s why they’ve created bases for full divisions buried under mountains that are so deep and impenetrable they could sustain a nuclear attack. Not to mention they have built-in fiber-optic communication networks connecting every underground base. They literally have everything you’d need there, like factories and workforces to build tanks, guns, and munitions. They use these mountain bases as permanent bunkers, with long range howitzers on rail lines scaling across peaks that can relentlessly shoot salvos. Mobile artillery like that is an incredible advantage. Even though the South Korean army could probably triangulate where the howitzer fire comes from, the rail lines allow them to quickly relocate.
This all sounds like they’re really prepared and South Korea isn’t.
I mean it’s a completely different society and outlook. Just to give you an idea how hard and disciplined these SOB’s are, around 2005 a North Korean soldier defected and gave himself up to South Korean police in some remote village on the northwest coast. When an intelligence officer asked him how he got there he said he swam. The guy was basically a member of an elite reconnaissance unit that literally swam something like 30 miles down from North Korea, gathered intelligence on South Korean defenses, then swam back. The guy just ditched his unit for the swim back. He was shocked the South Koreans didn’t do the same thing.
The SK Air Force is well equipped with F-15’s and F-16’s that would shoot the shit out of anything Pyongyang can put in the air. Their army is nothing to sneeze at either, nearly half a million troops, 2,400 tanks, 2,700 armored fighting vehicles, 5,800 artillery pieces, 60 guided missile systems, and 600 helicopters, more or less.
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And how much such stuff does China have?
I doubt that China would lift one finger to help their (ahem) ‘friends’ in Pyongyang. North Korea has become a liability more than an asset to them. They actually have better relations with South Korea than the North.
I don’t think that bodes well for Kim Jong Un.
If the North grabs, the wealth will vaporize.
Has Obama asked the south to surrender yet?
Maybe Kerry could call it Korean Spring?
Øbama hasn’t finished his evening round of golf yet, but he will make the phone call shortly.
Brilliant post and true: “...kick the juche out of ‘em...”
Once Trump gets in, its game over for our enemies.I agree, and it has been standard issue for the Russians and Chinese to use other countries as a proxy.
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I agree, whether it is Trump or anyone else with a spine and who is an American. It has been standard issue for the Russians and Chinese to use other countries as a proxy.
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