Posted on 08/20/2015 10:51:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
They would have no body to blame for it but themselves.
It’s a GOP nightmare to the degree that they’re out of touch with voters.
Yes! And the antics of those who are so out-of-touch, is further driving a wedge that will be permanent, if they do not stop trying to suppress the growing outrage of millions of us who feel betrayed. They will back down before we will.
Suddenly, they’d find things to love about Trump.
Cruz has been my candidate too but I have to give props to Mr. Trump for derailing Jebby’s coronation.
the establishment would go for cruz because he is their best “close to usual” politician. He has to raise money, he supports H1b increases, his staffers can be controlled.
Trump over Cruz? Surely you jest?
The debate would be a slaughter.
Cruz has regional strength in Texas and Louisiana, which could translate into his picking up Perry and Jindal supporters
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Just read a poll posted at F.R. that Trump leads in Texas by a fairly good margin and that Perry supporters are negligible. Don’t remember about Jindal’s but Trump leads everybody else in Texas polling.
My top three, not necessarily in order are, Walker, Trump and Cruz.
RE: The debate would be a slaughter.
Who will be the Slaughterer?
Start measuring for the curtains in the Oval Office, and don't be a crybaby.
Excellent, yes, that’s why I support Senator Cruz.
Cruz will remain my favorite, but this would definitely be bad news to the GOPe. They’d come out in support of the democrat nominee, for sure. That is how they operate. But I think both Cruz & Trump are polling well in the democrat circles of voters who are looking for a return to the America they grew up in and are getting tired to the hard left influence in the democrat party. These same kinds of people went over to Reagan in the 80s.
There are lots of advisors in these, not one man. Otherwise we’d have heard his name (Cruz) before. Who heard of this before now? They bring this up to associate Cruz with Bush. Bush made some bad decisions, yes, but after the demo took the Senate in 2006, nothing Bush wanted was ever approved. Surely you remember that they REFUSED to vote on MOST of his judicial nominees, leaving large holes on the bench, which Obama quickly filled, with a complicit Congress. Also remember that when Bush took over, the economy was in a free-fall at the end of Clinton’s two terms. Bush had to deal with that and 9/11 within months of each other, and less than a year into his first term. I’m no Bush fan, but think what it would’ve been had Al Gore won. We’d be in much deeper than we are. Bush started well, but ended poorly. Too bad. Let’s keep a proper perspective about things. These commentators have a short memory, or they think WE do. I’d never heard Cruz’s name while Bush was in office, so he could NOT have been a major policy player.
I have to read any thread with “Nightmare/GOP Establishment” in the title.
Me too.
He’s got the dough to make a long run if voters give him a reason to keep goingLOL! There are no "ifs". Trump, already has both...Trump without breaking a sweat in a heartbeat.
You people and your Trump stepping aside for Cruz wet dream are delusional. You all claim Cruz is the only true conservative and that Trump is not conservative and yet you think, somehow, not conservative Trump (your words) will step aside for (in your twisted minds) the most conservative human being that ever walked the earth with no (not conservative) Trump ties attached.
YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS!
I don’t think it will .. I read somewhere yesterday that Trump and Ted were making plans to campaign together.
That I want to see .. I’m a BIG fan of Cruz .. and if people realize that the stuff Trump is talking about is the same stuff Cruz was talking about .. and the same stuff the LEFT was smearing Cruz about .. I think people are going to have a different view of Cruz.
Cruz has been having very BIG crowds .. but for some reason he can’t seem to get about 10% .. so I don’t believe their stupid polls.
Me too, but the answer to the question is easy: the winner takes the top card and the loser is the VP nominee.
I guess the key here is that there isn't one single GOP elite group. First, there are corporate or Wall Street types who would have no trouble going over to the Democrats (if they haven't already done so). Then there are Washington conservative establishment types who might reluctantly go with Cruz. I suppose the GOP party hierarchy would do the same, however they really felt about the guy.
More liberal or moderate Republicans outside the beltway might prefer Trump. First he was one of them (or something close to it). Secondly, he's kept his distance from the religious right. Third, they aren't necessarily opposed to shaking things up. Most of the old liberal or moderate Republicans, though, like our friend TR IV on the other thread, have long ago gone over to the Democrats.
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