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To: TexasFreeper2009
Lust for power is what drives all politicians, Trump is no exception.

Except he's not a politician...

While "lust for power" is a convenient cliché (like "greedy" corporations), it's not the slam dunk confutation its pedestrian proponents like to think it is.

If it were, no one would ever stop at Congressman, let alone leave under their own steam.

Further, as stated earlier, Trump is not a politician, he builds businesses. Men like him acquire power as a byproduct of their successes, not as a goal in itself. Assuming he has a "lust" for power is as doctrinaire as assuming someone sings opera because they're snooty.

I read an article just yesterday that had a sample of I think 20 people on why they support Trump.

But this is FreeRepublic. We are not a "sample" in that this is what we do for fun. Not that we are immune to vanity, but long time FReepers such as myself take great satisfaction in constructing persuasive arguments and refutations. The "football fans" come and go, but rarely will you find a long time FReeper that is unmoved by solid reasoning.

I am seeking the truth about who it is, why do you Trumps supporters find that so offensive?

It's not that we find challenges offensive: it's the bad arguments. It is most frustrating when someone ignores all aspects of the debate, only to ascribe ignorance or naïveté to those they can not persuade.

...make no mistake SOMEONE is being misled.

Leaving aside the question of whether one is being purposely misled, or whether it's self-inflicted, the FIRST thing you need to determine is your own ability to detect such shenanigans. For me, it takes the form of this question: if I were wrong, how could someone prove it to me?

If I don't know what would prove me wrong, I won't recognize it when it's shown to me.

This may not prove completely satisfying in that often questions must remain "open." However, the benefit is that you will know those who profess a solid conclusion are talking out of their hat!

118 posted on 08/20/2015 11:47:01 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: papertyger
He is seeking to be elected, that by default makes him a politician.

It's not that I think people are ignorant, I just dont understand why all the Trump supporters are so defensive and why Trump and Trump alone is not to be judged by his past stances or called out on any qualifiers he slyly inserts into questions that might drive a wedge between him and the base.

Here, lets try this:

I'll pretend to be Trump, and I'll have a reporter ask me questions and I will answer using the techniques I think Trump is utilizing.

I will declare strongly a very conservative and concise answer like “if we dont have a border, we aren't a nation” and “they have got to go!” with less memorable qualifiers said only once very weakly, like “the good ones can come back quickly” and if asked a follow up question I simply restate one of my non pc concise answers “they have to go!” or I attack you for aksing an unfair question.

See how this works?

Ask me about gun control?

Sure! I strongly believe in the 2nd amendment right to bear arms! I think some common sense restrictions should be placed on that right, but I think an armed society is a polite society!

um... mr.. Trump.. what sort of “common sense restrictions” would you support?

to which I answer 1 of two ways:

HOW DARE YOU! ask me such an unfair question!
or
I support the 2nd amendment right to bear arms!

see how this works?

Mr Trump, What are your views on abortion?

I believe that abortion is terrible!

That's great Mr. Trump but would you support any restrictions on it?

I might support some common senses restrictions on it like if the life of the mother were at stake or something of that nature.

What restrictions besides exceptions to save the mothers life might you support? and would you appoint supreme court justices that might overturn Roe V Wade?

Trump then replies! WHAT AN UNFAIR QUESTION! I can't believe you would ask me such a thing! I already told you Abortion is Terrible!!!

I could go on and on.

120 posted on 08/20/2015 12:13:23 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: papertyger

I am going to call Trumps technique:

Attack, Divert, Reassert.


124 posted on 08/20/2015 12:41:13 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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