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To: papertyger
Lust for power is what drives all politicians, Trump is no exception.

What I encourage all people to do is to listen carefully when a politician answers a question for any out’s or qualifiers they insert into their answers.

I read an article just yesterday that had a sample of I think 20 people on why they support Trump. And what I gathered from that was that most of his supporters (on both the left and right) after hearing Trump speek come away thinking Trump agrees with them.

Basically the gist of the answers was:

Liberals believe Trump is a die hard liberal.
Conservatives believe Trump is a die hard conservative.
and the rest just want Trump to “burn it all down”

I didn't see a single moderate interviewed who supported Trump because they thought he was a moderate.

Both Liberals and Conservatives can't be right about Trump, which means someone is being misled.

I am seeking the truth about who it is, why do you Trumps supporters find that so offensive? are you trying to hide Trumps real views from conservatives? and if not, why be angered when someone simply wants to determined who is being misled here, and make no mistake SOMEONE is being misled.

112 posted on 08/20/2015 10:08:23 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Lust for power is what drives all politicians, Trump is no exception.

Except he's not a politician...

While "lust for power" is a convenient cliché (like "greedy" corporations), it's not the slam dunk confutation its pedestrian proponents like to think it is.

If it were, no one would ever stop at Congressman, let alone leave under their own steam.

Further, as stated earlier, Trump is not a politician, he builds businesses. Men like him acquire power as a byproduct of their successes, not as a goal in itself. Assuming he has a "lust" for power is as doctrinaire as assuming someone sings opera because they're snooty.

I read an article just yesterday that had a sample of I think 20 people on why they support Trump.

But this is FreeRepublic. We are not a "sample" in that this is what we do for fun. Not that we are immune to vanity, but long time FReepers such as myself take great satisfaction in constructing persuasive arguments and refutations. The "football fans" come and go, but rarely will you find a long time FReeper that is unmoved by solid reasoning.

I am seeking the truth about who it is, why do you Trumps supporters find that so offensive?

It's not that we find challenges offensive: it's the bad arguments. It is most frustrating when someone ignores all aspects of the debate, only to ascribe ignorance or naïveté to those they can not persuade.

...make no mistake SOMEONE is being misled.

Leaving aside the question of whether one is being purposely misled, or whether it's self-inflicted, the FIRST thing you need to determine is your own ability to detect such shenanigans. For me, it takes the form of this question: if I were wrong, how could someone prove it to me?

If I don't know what would prove me wrong, I won't recognize it when it's shown to me.

This may not prove completely satisfying in that often questions must remain "open." However, the benefit is that you will know those who profess a solid conclusion are talking out of their hat!

118 posted on 08/20/2015 11:47:01 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
A coordinated attack that educated the public about what Trump really believes would cause Trump to lose the support of either 1 or 2.

I am seeking the truth about who it is, why do you Trumps supporters find that so offensive?

You just told me you're waiting The professional politicians belonging to the GOP to tell the truth and educate Americans as to what Trump "really believes" in a coordinated attack.

Now it seem you're seeking the truth, but waiting for the professional politicians to educate you in some coordinated attack on Trump? Which is it?

121 posted on 08/20/2015 12:18:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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