Posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by jimbo123
Shortly after Donald Trump released his immigration policy proposal on Monday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker assured reporters that he agreed with Trump's opposition to "birthright citizenship." The Huffington Post did a quick count and figured that at least five other 2016 Republicans did, too.
"Birthright citizenship" is the idea, introduced in the 14th Amendment, that people born on American soil are automatically American citizens. As Wonkblog's Max Ehrenfreund noted on Monday, there are likely only two ways that the practice could be overturned.
The first would be to somehow convince the Supreme Court to overturn the 1898 ruling, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which established how the 14th Amendment would be enforced. The first clause in the amendment states that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
Ratified in 1868, the clause was meant to ensure that freed slaves were considered American citizens. Wong was born in San Francisco to Chinese parents, which the Court ruled was sufficient to make him a citizen.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Birthright citizenship is specifically not granted to children born of foreign diplomats in the United States or those born of invading armies.
Given the educational indoctrination of illegal Mexicans unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable argument can be made that they are children born of invading armies and, thus, ineligible for birthright citizenship.
Tell the folk’s their government beaners are in peril unless we deport ALL the illegals. Watch the support shoot through the roof!
Don’t mention the part about Workfare until after the wall is built. :)
The Wong Kim Ark case does not stand for the proposition that children born in the United States to a person who entered the country illegally automatically become citizens. The left likes to pretend it does, but that specific issue has NEVER been decided by the Supreme Court.
It is unlawful to grant citizenship to the offspring of foreign diplomats. So much for “all who are born here are birthright citizens” bs.
Not that the law is enforced of course.
PING
Furthermore, a “right” based on fraud should be null and void.
Send them all back. Not needed, not wanted, GTHO.
And send the politicians and CEOs with them
You love em, you live with em
I have no idea why Scott Walker is mentioned. Scott Walker is a maker of scotch whiskey; red label, green lablel, black label, etc. Trump doesn't even drink.
The only things impossible are those that are not tried. The continual BS used by the GOPe needs to challenged at every point. The wimps in congress need to answer . . . WHY?
While many erroneously claim that the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born on American soil, the reality is that is not the law and has never been the law. Current immigration law–found at 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a)–specifies that a baby born on American soil to (1) a foreign ambassador, (2) head of state, or (3) foreign military prisoner is not an American citizen.
HOW THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT EMPOWERS CONGRESS TO END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
Don’t you love the punditry. They offer no solutions just opinions that nothing is possible. No wonder Main street hates the media and the Republicans. It is all about nothing can be done.
Trump is all about can-do. It is so obvious why Trump is winning. Even listening to Glenn Beck . He is all about how we are doomed and hopeless.
Me neither.
Alcohol makes me hungry, and then I feel like I have to throw up.
My brother, on the other hand, is made of pure alcohol.
They couldn’t change the status of any existing “anchor persons” but could future ones.
simple if you keep the illegals out.
They need to be more specific, recall this scam:
"But now at least one prominent Republican lawmaker wants to change the 14th Amendment to the Constitution which grants American citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil.
“Birthright citizenship I think is a mistake,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told Fox News last week. “We should change our Constitution and say if you come here illegally and you have a child, that child's automatically not a citizen.”
Republicans Eye Change to Birthright Citizenship (WASHINGTON, August 3, 2010)
I don’t agree with anyone using their pen and a phone to make policy outside their purview. That being said....it would be worth it just to watch all the politicians and pundits on both sides heads explode as they all shriek and scream. lol
“Who is Scott Walker?”
By next month, many more people will ask this question : )
Put ‘foreign embassy’ delivery rooms in all hospitals... that way babies born to foreign nationals are born in their own country...
I agree with you! I’d be splitting my sides.
If we don't deport these illegals and they will move the country more toward the left(socialism). Socialism hurts everyone. Government/socialism has grown every year at every level for 110 years. importing a million leftist voters fro the 3rd world will lead into the abyss
When have politicians not grown govenrnent or did anything for Americans? never
A prime technique for bringing down an existing social order is to OVERLOAD and OVERWHELM the governmental systems, creating economic and social chaos. What’s going on today is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and the Cloward-Piven Strategy named for the Marxist maniac couple who tutored obazo on its finer points. Because we have NOT sent home 20 million illegals, WE NOW HAVE THE FISCAL BANKRUPTCY AND ARE CLOSING IN ON THE SOCIAL CHAOS. BOTH parties have been applying those methods but obozo, who studied those methods under Cloward-Piven Ayers while a so-called “community organizer,” is using ALL the gadgets in the radical toolkit. If it continues much longer, YOUR kids are doomed to life as serfs in a nation that will more resemble Nazi Germany or the old USSR than the America the Founders ATTEMPTED to leave us.
My niece was an OB/GYN who took her pre-med at HAAAAVVAAAAADDD! Needless to say, she emerged from that experience a LIBERAL. (She stopped catching babies and went into research when her malpractice premiums ultimately began to exceed her annual earnings.)
Upon completing her medical training at yet another liberal university, she interned at a hospital near the border in “Kahlifonia.”
It was there that a mystical transformation took place: She began to connect the heavy deductions from the slave wage GROSS EARNINGS for which she busted her butt for as many as 72 virtually sleepless hours with the taxis and jalopies regularly sliding to the curb in front of the ER.
Many of them contained pregnant illegals who won the race to deliver their babies HERE. She caught many of those “anchor babies” who, under the current — and COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS —interpretation of the 14th Amendment were IMMEDIATELY NEW AMERICANS. The mother – who, obviously, could not care for the child if she were back in her native land — could not be deported now even if the INS and the political bosses WANTED her deported (which, because these illegals can generally be counted on to vote the liberal line, they DO NOT). And as the mother of a new US citizen, the woman could remain here for about as long as she cared to – and that was usually for life.
(NOTE: I’ll post several links to more information on the 14th Amendment at the end of my little rant. It’s a fascinating and disturbing story.
Most of those patients were welfare recipients and the deliveries were charity cases: The bill for the hospital’s – and HER services – were routinely spread over the bills of those who DO pay. And what the other users of those facilities don’t cover went back to the taxpayers.
And since my family member was now a taxpayer, they were costing HER.
And while she may not exactly be a libertarian, today she has come a long way from Harvard.
And just so the bleeders who might see this don’t think me some sort of ethnocentric bigot, I submit this problem is MORE than just about illegals.
Before my oldest daughter was born at University Hospital in Cleveland in 1967, I sat in the main lobby as welfare mother-to-be after welfare mother-to-be waddled through the door to the maternity ER for THEIR free deliveries.
Before WE could take OUR daughter home, I had to cough up over 3 grand. And that was a great deal of dough in 1967, especially for a guy who’d just finished a 4 year turn in the USAF.
As I wrote the check, I remembered the magazine article I’d recently read by a hospital administrator from Massachusetts who admitted that all US hospitals practiced a form of medical Marxism, spreading the costs of care for indigents over the bills of those who DO pay for care. Given the move to socialism here, it probably will never be otherwise: Not counting Byzantine complexity and confusion, government produces – and has — NOTHING unless it first takes it from some PERSON. SOMEBODY ALWAYS PAYS.
The illegals have been using the emergency rooms of our hospitals for their health-care, almost always at no charge to them. That cost is either spread over other users or the taxpayers. We have seen a national epidemic of hospital closings due to their insolvency, much of it caused by the burden of trying to render care to PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE, denying care to native-born citizens who normally pay their bills and their taxes. And, I submit, the drain the illegals impose on the welfare system is a major reason for our national insolvency and the impending social chaos. (Thank you grubby leftist, power-hungry RINO politicians and bureaucrats!)
Look, I have a big enough problem paying for the 3rd and 4th generation slackers and welfare bums who were BORN here.
It’s long past time we stopped paying for those who were not.
PS: Sadly, we lost my niece to cancer in May of 2011 – at age 50!
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AFTER RANT POST:
For a short, Reader’s Digest version of the ORIGINAL intent of the 14th Amendment, go here: http://pocusa.info/NLArchive22_14thAmndt.html . For a more comprehensive explanation of the events surrounding the amendment, go here: http://www.14thamendment.us/index.html )
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