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To: RoosterRedux

Jeb is terrible.

What the Repub establishment doesn’t realize is they’ll NEVER win a national election and will lose many, many states if Leftists are allowed to stack the deck with 11 million new voters.

Illegal immigration is an existential threat to the nation. It’s a slow invasion. If tanks were coming across the border, our military would respond. Instead, Leftists welcome the new ill-informed, Welfare criminals and are happy to inform them how they are oppressed while signing them up to vote.


9 posted on 08/18/2015 8:24:41 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
It is not that Jeb is terrible. It is just that he is unable to face reality. As I have posted elsewhere:

One can argue about the costs & problems with any attempted solution to the present dynamics, which are completely undermining American cultures in community after community. But the one thing that is totally unrealistic is the insane notion that you can preserve the American values & culture of the Founders, without a drastic policy that addresses the realities on the ground.

The Left has used a massive "bait & switch" strategy, going back at least to the 1950s; but with much earlier roots, to undermine the continuity of American culture & identity. The attack goes like this. They first identify actual mean spirited--even hate driven--attacks on people, based on their race, ethnicity, faith or class. Then they label the motive behind those attacks as "racism," "bigotry," "nativism," or whatever, and gain a certain consensus on that labeling. That is the bait; and most of us can agree up to that point, that what they have labelled, is indeed something bad; something that should be avoided, and condemned.

Then comes the subtle switch. At first by slow degrees, and then in a great propaganda rush; the condemned behavior ceases to be limited to actual misdeeds against victims, and is expanded to include any racial, ethnic or religious identification--indeed any sense of community with people with whom you have shared a common history, kinship, values & identity. In short, expanded to include the social "glue," that provides for the cohesion and continuity of a people.

Because so much of our Academia & the puppets in the media who parrot what the Leftist crackpots in Academia installed in their minds, are themselves totally committed to the lunacy that people are interchangeable; that the apparent differences are merely products of a social environment that can be manipulated & changed by social engineering; much of the public never questions what has happened to common sense.

There is almost no sense of proportion or logical relationships in the public discourse. And unless we find a way to break out of the resulting Pavlovian like conditioning, boys and girls, there is not going to be a recognizable America in the very near future.

Jeb Bush may be a very nice man, personally. He is certainly to be commended for loving his wife. His niceness--his commendable sense of his own family--are not the issues. For whatever reason; whether from what he was conditioned to believe in College, or what he has come to believe with the sort of advisers he has had since; or whether from something innate in his character, he is not the man to be taken seriously on this issue.

I have tried to put this in as nice a way as possible. But we are faced with the question of whether America survives as a people. Trump gets it. Bush does not.

14 posted on 08/18/2015 8:32:14 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: TigerClaws
Illegal immigration is an existential threat to the nation.

Legal immigration is an existential threat far greater than illegal immigration. Over 35 million LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS have come to the US since 1990. They are future voters and 87% are minorities as defined by the USG, Minorities and immigrants vote more than two to one Dem.

15 posted on 08/18/2015 8:32:48 AM PDT by kabar
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