10 Reasons Why You Do Not Want to Bug Out

The Prepper Journal ^ | 10 Jan 15 | Pat Henry

[Patriotic1]

we beat feet, my friends that ended up there were forever changed.

Can you expand on that a bit?

[Kartographer]

"So, the main question is, present mob bad guys wouldn't get here, but would the upscale people here turn into a type of inner city mob bad guys and attack their upscale neighbor(s) when they realize the neighbor(s) isn't/aren't dying like they are?"

You know my answer to your question:
Quark: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)

[bgill]

I used to feel safe and comfortable here but in the past 5 years, the hoards have found this area. I never wanted to move but that’s what I’ve been contemplating this summer. These are normal times and middle class to wealthy white people (not PC but fact) are blatantly trespassing daily so just wait until hit the fan times.

[RinaseaofDs]

If they have kids, and you have food and they don’t, I doubt they’d hesitate. Income doesn’t matter. There is a king and a despot in every crowd.

[eastforker]

I bugged out about 6 months ago when I retired. Now I am at the end of a 2 mile dead end road with just a very few neighbors, all self reliant, have a good well and plentiful game. no easy way in except for the road. The down side is I left Texas but Alabama is a good state to live in.

[Rennes Templar]

Our house is a split level on a hill. The garage is built into the side of the hill on the lower level. Stays cool year round.

[editor-surveyor]

This writer apparently doesn’t have the slightest notion of what is likely to come down.

First, it all depends on where you are.

If you are in a major metro area, especially with a shipping port, nuclear and/or biological attack is becoming increasingly likely, thus getting out is job one.

If you are in a deep suburban/semi-rural area, the zombies escaping the city are your threat, in which case site security and camouflage are/should be your goals.

In either case, please recognize that the “authorities” will be working against your best interests, and in favor of any and all zombies.

If none of this makes any sense to you, then you just might be one of the potential zombies.
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[Old Sarge]

So, the main question is, present mob bad guys wouldn't get here, but would the upscale people here turn into a type of inner city mob bad guys and attack their upscale neighbor(s) when they realize the neighbor(s) isn't/aren't dying like they are? I sit in this fancy house in this fancy area and wonder how secure it is among it's fancy neighbors. This being Texas, I'm sure they all have guns. Would they use them on me and other fancy neighbors to stay alive?

Dear heart, fear and desperation can make people do bizarre and inhuman things.

You never know if, when SHTF, that beta-male cashier at Home Depot would morph into The Governor from "The Walking Dead".

You never know if, when SHTF, that sweet young girl who sings alto with the choir at the Antioch Full Gospel Fellowship Assembly will turn out to be a Ladies Auxiliary of the Bloods.

And if that's not enough to convince, the first dozen pages of Selco's blog will instruct as well.

[editor-surveyor]

To siphon gas from modern cars, you need a much smaller hose than you probably are accustomed to.

Another thing about gas:

If you are using the new-fangled “spill-proof” plastic jugs, you must store them with the spout above the jug, not inside of it.

If the spout is inside, and the temp rises much, the pressure will force the gas slowly up and out of the lid of the jug, until it is down to the level of the lower tip of the spout.
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[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes and she’s not fat. Helluva watchdog. :-)

[GoneSalt]

Key Largo area. I’m just a coastal cruiser, TX to FL, but I want to go up the E coast, when I’m ready to make the return shortcut NY-Bermuda-Bahamas-FL but I’m not quite ready yet. Maybe next year (I say every year)

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “If your home is your survival platform is a sailboat, bugging out is just going cruising.” <<

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Until the Coast Guard decides otherwise.

[GoneSalt]

Yeah, getting out is the rub. The situation is already so police intense you can get boarded three times going to deep water. So if the situation deteriorated, you have to get out early. Sailboats tend to not reflect radar well at long distance’s, is a factor. Use of a GPS logs your data into the system; another reason to embrace lo tech. The smuggler’s trick is, wait for weather that’s so ungodly that no sane man would be out in it, and split then, all the official agencies will have other fish to fry. I’ve used a sailboat for a seven ton surfboard...it’s fun ;) singing at the top of your lungs with lightning cracking around you, thinking “well if I’m not shxttxng myself now, I guess I never will” ;) Been there!

Since I have had a goal to go up the east coast, I’ve also meditating on a kicker and sailing as far north as I can before pointing for Bermuda. According to the charts there is a lot of unoccupied land up there. I’d like to eyeball it. If there is a hot springs anywhere to be found, I might have ideas.

[CatherineofAragon]

That sounds similar to the place my inlaws have in South Carolina for getaways. They’re planning to retire down there, and if they asked me the same question, I would tell them to assume all people will turn feral when the SHTF, even upscale ones.

They’d be prepared, though. They are both excellent with guns. When my FIL is out of town, my MIL has told us-—”Anyone who opens that door during the night better yell “Mom”, because she sleeps with her gun nearby and she will use it.

[archy]

I am an avid back packer and love bugging out for leisure.

Depends a lot on the weather.

[archy]

For some realistic advice check out Ferfal’s blog, Alpharubican, and (his name escapes me) a blog written by a Bosnia who survived in that war.

Right off the top of my head, I think his name was Stefan. His initial thoughts on what that year of change in Bosnia was like can be seen here.

The AlphaRubicon site is spelled just a bit differently, and I'd add JW Rawles Survival Blog to your reccomendations.

[archy]

I think the proverbial "bugging out" is totally situational.

I don't plan to be anywhere East of the Mississippi, so I don't have much personal concern about Florida's weather.

On the other hand, we do get a good bit of snow in NE Wyoming, which I pretty much figure to endure the same as most of my neighbors and three generations of those who settled here before us did; my granddad's Homestead Act tract of which I'm now the caretaker, chief cook and bottlewasher, was granted to grandda by President Coolidge in 1924, and things are certainly not as drastic for us now as they were in his day. Indeed, there are houses in our county with inward-opening doors on the second floor; the dry powder snoow can drift a bit out this way.

On the other hand, some other things I'd be a lot less likely to hang around for.

[caww]

I’m within walking distance, just up the hill from one of the “shelters”. Even though I’ve been stocking food etc. I would go there. Then when and if they ran out of provisions I’d return to my home and bug in. Sounds selfish but it would be a matter of survival IMO.

Where I live can be “sealed” up pretty quickly. Greatest issue would be heat in winter.

[3D-JOY]

Exactly why I have a bug back pack in my car...inflatable and life jackets as well as water to cross water...seems silly but I am happy to have it and supplies are there to bug in!

Pets depend on me too...although dog is likely to be with me. I have his pack and life jacket too.

Thanks to this thread I realized if the causeway was closed I needed both a bug out and a bug back bag. Hope I never need the bug out ones!

[Lazamataz]

I kinda have no choice but to sit tight.