Posted on 08/12/2015 6:14:45 PM PDT by markomalley
Outsiders who have never before held political office are dominating the race for the Republican presidential nomination.
Donald Trump is the GOP front-runner, while businesswoman Carly Fiorina is surging after a strong performance in last weeks debate.
Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is also showing strength, and is a candidate to watch in the Iowa caucuses, where he is outperforming former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
Conservatives are thrilled with the developments.
This is a paradigm shift, conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace told The Hill. The base of the party is in open revolt. Were watching a political party dissolve. Its a civil war and the GOP as its constructed may not survive.
Others think Republican voters will eventually coalesce around a more traditional GOP candidate perhaps Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).
They believe Trumps rise is a product of his celebrity and a media frenzy that will ultimately fizzle. They doubt that Carson and Fiorina will be able to compete in the fundraising fight, or pull together the political operation to make a deep run through the primaries.
But for now, the anti-establishment wing of the GOP is on the upswing.
Fiorina is rising in polls, moving into the top tier of candidates in Iowa and New Hamshire, according to two surveys released this week.
A new survey from Public Policy Polling showed Carson has pulled into a second-place tie in Iowa with Walker, who for months held a big lead over the field in the Hawkeye State. A Suffolk University poll released this week showed voters in Iowa believe Carson matched Rubio as one of the winners in prime-time debate.
Both are embracing their outsider status.
Change was promised, but people dont see that change ... if Congressional leaders cant produce results, they need to step aside, Fiorina, a former Hewlett-Packard CEO, told Breitbart News in a post-debate interview.
The comments aligned Fiorina with grassroots critics of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
Carson was similarly blunt in his criticism of the political establishment.
The political class has weaved an imaginary tale that theyre the only ones who can solve our problems, he said this week on "CBS This Morning." But the fact of the matter is if you take the collective political experience of everyone in Congress, which is just under 9,000 years, youll see that it really has not solved our problems.
The rise of Trump, Carson and Fiorina is welcome news to conservatives such as Laura Ingraham, who has been critical of Bush, presumed to have been the GOP front-runner.
If we dont come to terms with what is happening in the Republican Party, this is going to be a very ugly 2016, the radio host said in a testy exchange on Fox News with conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer, who has been critical of Trump.
There is a coming crack-up in the Republican Party if Republicans dont let this play out, Ingraham said.
Many conservatives believe GOP leaders oversold on promises they made heading in to the 2014 election cycle, when Republicans won an historically large majority in the House and wrested control of the Senate from Democrats.
There was no point in the last election, said Deace. Republican leaders nullified the results. Nothing has happened that wouldnt have happened if [Senate Democratic leader Harry] Reid werent the leader.
Even conservative critics of Trumps policies believe his popularity is linked not just to his celebrity status, but to the fact that he doesnt sound like a politician.
Donald Trump is not taking off because Republican voters agree with his liberal policy positions, Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham wrote in an op-ed on Red State. He has supported socialized medicine, abortion, and amnesty in the past. He is taking off because voters feel unheard, they feel like both political parties are paid off by the well-connected, and they feel like the political process has become a game disconnected from addressing their concerns.
Texas-based Republican strategist Matt Mackowiak estimated that those in open revolt with the party constitute about a quarter of Republican primary voters.
He said the outsiders will have an impact on the race by forcing candidates with establishment appeal to find new ways of addressing the growing sense of frustration among the base.
One beneficiary could be Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).
The Texas Republican, who since arriving in Washington has relished every opportunity to frustrate party leadership in the Senate, surged into second place in a NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll released shortly after the debate.
Hes raised more hard campaign dollars than any other candidate, hauling in $1 million in the 100 hours after the debate, and attracted a crowd of more than 1,000 at a rally in Alabama this week.
Mackowiak says GOP candidates need to realize how angry the base is with its elected GOP leadership.
The establishment side of the party has to show that they get it, and we havent seen that yet, he said. Theyre saying that Obama has failed, theyre not saying that GOP leadership has failed. Thats not the message the base is sending.
Let the leaders lead. Either follow or vote democrat.
I've had enough of the crap we've been forced to vote for the last few elections.
The insiders have worn us out ,,, they are useless Boehner , McConnell and all the estabs need to retire and let someone with a spine take over .
Denial just ain’t a river in Egypt.
That sentence just makes me want to throw up.
One of the communists goals of 1963 was to take over one or both political parties. They took over the Rat party decades ago and had most of the Republican party in the past 20 years.
One truth and a million lies. God help us.
McConnell and crew said they were going to crush the tea party/conservatives.
We elected more Republicans in 2010 and 2012 only to be betrayed by them.
F’ the GOP. They don’t get it at all.
I had the exact same reaction to it.
But now we’re mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.
The stupid RINOs needed a good boot in the pants, a fresh approach, new ideas, and a leader who does NOT pussyfoot around.
The reason is obvious. The Washington political elitist class are CORRUPT beyond belief and many of the most ignorant and complacent of the electorate are FINALLY realizing the exponentially increasing damage that these lying political criminals are doing to America.
Stock your cellar or garage with plenty of popcorn — things are gonna get very interesting very fast. Hey Hillary, have you bought your fashionable orange jump suit yet???
About time, but don’t look for the GOPe to roll this back any time soon. No, they should start planning their next careers or anticipating time with their families.
Outsiders ??
The communists running the DNC and the RNC country clubbers and their greedy pulled back wives are terrified of this guy.
A couple of black marxist propagandists on one of CNN tonight basically said that Trump, the Republicans, and anybody who doesnt denounce him are racists in need an attitude adjustment.
They are really busy twisting the knife into the back of law abiding normal American taxpayers.
Trump will crucify the likes of Jeb Bush, comes right out and says he doesnt respect him.
For that reason alone is a Godsend.
Ive been dealing with politicians all my life. They are all talk, no action, Trump said. Never going to get done. Theyre controlled by the lobbyists, theyre controlled by donors, and theyre controlled by special interests.
When I tell somebody to do something, Im not going to get a lobbyist calling me the next day to say, Please dont do that even though its good for America.
Specifically, he got asked about Jeb Bush. Not a big fan. The last thing we need is another Bush, Trump said.
He doesnt seem to think much of Jebs brother, George W., either. During the interview, Trump said, I would be willing to bet I would have a great relationship with [Russian President] Vladimir Putin. Its about leadership.
OReilly responded with, You sound like George W. Bush when he looked into [Putins] soul and said he was a good guy.
Trump snarked, Bush didnt have the IQ.
Paid off by people like Trump?
see my #13
Well, I guess we’ll get more efficient government by eliminating the middleman. Elect the briber directly instead of making him pay off someone else you elect.
The Washington Beltway Republicans are likely very, very pissed.
The grass roots has the NERVE to expect results after two historic mid-term elections.
‘There was no point in the last election, said Deace. Republican leaders nullified the results. Nothing has happened that wouldnt have happened if [Senate Democratic leader Harry] Reid werent the leader.’
Wouldn’t it be something if Mitch and John passed something- anything- conservative: to help the RINO presidential candidates by counteracting the anger at the establishment?
LOL!
It would be too little too late. But it would be the intelligent thing to do otherwise.
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