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Trump can’t kill a dead body
email | 8/12/2015 | Kevin Collins

Posted on 08/12/2015 8:42:47 AM PDT by HomerBohn

America and the Republican Party are dead. America was murdered by Barack Obama and his supporters. The Republican Party was murdered by John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and the US Chamber of Commerce. Bringing them back to life is not something we should bank on happening. The number of people who see America as being on the wrong track hovers above 65% and it has not been less than 61% since mid-February. Approval ratings for the Republican Party are at historic lows. Both are dead.

Doctors are advised to, “First do no harm.” Their job is to help mend and cure the injured and sick. Since they are not miracle workers we cannot expect them to resurrect the dead. Nevertheless, when a body is dead, it is dead and nothing can be done to bring it back or harm it. This is why those who do autopsies don’t have much to worry about – they can’t lose a patient.

Donald Trump can’t kill a dead body. He very well might not be able to bring America and the Republican Party back to life; but what harm can he do to a dead body?

Trump is the guy who is at the door of the morgue saying, “Hey, I know these guys. Can I try to bring them back to life?” Where is the harm in giving him a chance to try his hand at performing a miracle?

The rest of the Republican field contains some very skilled and attractive candidates; but none has the potential to bring “come back” know how to Washington to the degree Trump can. When the situation is as bad as we all know it is; we don’t want to nominate a person that cannot think in dynamic terms. We can’t afford to look good but lose as we have so many times before.

Ted Cruz is a very good man; but he will be eviscerated by the Democrats using the same old playbook they chopped up ordinary Republican candidates with before. He cannot win. Dr. Carson would get the Herman Caine treatment even if they had to make things up out of whole cloth. Scott Walker is just not ready.

This leaves us with Donald Trump, a guy who is hated by the Chamber of Commerce. He is far from perfect but will make the Russians the Chinese and the Iranians listen and is all of these are good things.

“Paging Doctor Trump, please report to the morgue immediately!”

Trump can’t kill a dead body.


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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I honestly don’t have the time/leisure right now to read the entire speech. Could you kindly provide the quote/excerpt in which he diagnoses the problem?

Thank you in advance.


61 posted on 08/12/2015 11:02:01 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
The full speech is worth a read when you do get the chance, and he "diagnoses the problem" at some length, in some detail. Here's a pretty decent excerpt that gets at what he's talking about, though:

For so many Americans, the promise of America seems more and more distant. What is the promise of America? The idea that -- the revolutionary idea that this country was founded upon, which is that our rights don’t come from man. They come from God Almighty. And that the purpose of the Constitution, as Thomas Jefferson put it, is to serve as chains to bind the mischief of government.

The incredible opportunity of the American dream, what has enabled millions of people from all over the world to come to America with nothing and to achieve anything. And then the American exceptionalism that has made this nation a clarion voice for freedom in the world, a shining city on a hill.

That’s the promise of America. That is what makes this nation an indispensable nation, a unique nation in the history of the world. And yet, so many fear that that promise is today unattainable. So many fear it is slipping away from our hands.

I want to talk to you this morning about reigniting the promise of America: 240 years ago on this very day, a 38-year-old lawyer named Patrick Henry stood up just a hundred miles from here in Richmond, Virginia and said, “Give me liberty or give me death.”

I want to ask each of you to imagine, imagine millions of courageous conservatives, all across America, rising up together to say in unison “we demand our liberty.”

62 posted on 08/12/2015 11:07:37 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Thank you for your honesty. I live in a blue state too. I swore I’d never vote again after feeling sick to my stomach pulling the lever for Romney and McCain.

Trump changed that for me. I will vote for him or Cruz or combination of the two.


63 posted on 08/12/2015 11:09:07 AM PDT by ballearthout
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To: HomerBohn
Leaders of the Uniparty


64 posted on 08/12/2015 11:12:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: ballearthout
Thank you for your honesty. I live in a blue state too. I swore I’d never vote again after feeling sick to my stomach pulling the lever for Romney and McCain.

The advantage (if you want to call it that) to living in blue states (err, jurisdictions) in 2008 (DC) and 2012 (NY) is that I felt no obligation to make myself sick to my stomach by doing that.

Of course, the disadvantage is that I had to face my neighbors afterwards (both years, my precinct went to Obama by huge margins--80+%, maybe even 90+%). So, on balance, it sucked. But at least I have the silver lining of being able to tell myself that I didn't pull that lever...

65 posted on 08/12/2015 11:17:14 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
"The new president is trying. Bush left him with a mess -- a total mess in many different ways. I really think he's doing the best he can, but it is trial and error."

That is hardly praise. At best, it's "damning with faint praise." It is as close to diplomacy as The Donald is likely to get.

66 posted on 08/12/2015 11:18:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I only did it because of Obama. Anyone else, I wouldn’t have put myself through that.

If nothing else, I’m glad Trump ran because it is showing in a very clear way how the GOP party apparatus really works in tow with the media. If they sabotage him unfairly, I surely will never vote again. I will not participate in a rigged system.

I’m sorry we can’t agree on Trump. But I do respect your honesty.


67 posted on 08/12/2015 11:22:23 AM PDT by ballearthout
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

There wasn’t a hint in that excerpt re: the life-and-death dire straits to which country has been reduced. Nor is there the shadow of a clue as to what the specific problems are.

I’m afraid you’ve proved my point. ONLY Trump has accurately assessed the most critical problems, and bluntly spoken of them to the American people.


68 posted on 08/12/2015 11:27:07 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: ballearthout
I’m sorry we can’t agree on Trump. But I do respect your honesty.

Likewise, the respect is certainly mutual.

69 posted on 08/12/2015 11:28:15 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Democrat_media

The flood of illegals doesn’t have to be a death sentence if we do two things: first , get tough about immigration by building a wall, absolutely deporting violent criminals, restricting welfare benefits in every possible way. Secondly, a new government must use the FCC and the Department of Education to root Marxists and Marxism out of the media and the schools, and break the NEA union, replacing the current leftwing indoctrination with a traditional, practical, factual and positive view of our nation and our political/economic systems. Resurgence starts with proper information.


70 posted on 08/12/2015 11:28:55 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Fantasywriter

You are right that Trump has put it in blunter terms than others. But I think if you read the Cruz speech in its entirety, he has diagnosed the problems in this country, and has begun to outline solutions...


71 posted on 08/12/2015 11:30:30 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Pollster1
There is still a slim chance that we can peacefully restore freedom in November of 2016, despite the inevitable and massive Democrat vote fraud. There is a bigger chance that we can restore freedom through means other than a free and at least somewhat fair election. I'm on the side of one or the other, not just giving up.

I, on the other hand, am a weak sister who's terrified of everything; who has no resolve, no strength; who's idea of confrontation is to hide under sheets, trembling in abject fear. Routinely, I collapse to the floor, paralyzed by unknowable fear, in the fetal position, trembling, naked, sweating, and completely consumed by raw anxiety and a baseless terror of the unknown. Covering my eyes against a threat that is not there, my mouth agape in a silent scream, I stay under the table in that fetal position for hours, shaking, pale and whimpering, often lying in a puddle of my own sick.

72 posted on 08/12/2015 11:32:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: GBA
A quick peek behind the new fence and the old company facade and you can see how they've organized to progressively break up the company, keeping what they want, spending down the company treasury and abandoning the rest like an un-reclaimed strip mine. It's very speculative, but this mess does sound like something a developer with a vision would see as an opportunity.

That is his stock in trade: redeveloping distressed properties on still-valuable locations. He knows how to break a problem into do-able parts and set teams all over it.

73 posted on 08/12/2015 11:34:15 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If Cruz has diagnosed the problems, why didn’t you excerpt that part of his speech? The excerpt you posted wasn’t short, but I read the entire piece. As I said, it offered not the slightest suggestion that the country is in a death spiral, nor did it explain WHY we are in a death spiral. If those things are in the speech, why put so much extra reading to me on what is an extremely busy day? Why not quote the pertinent excerpt to begin with?


74 posted on 08/12/2015 11:39:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
(both years, my precinct went to Obama by huge margins--80+%, maybe even 90+%). So, on balance, it sucked. But at least I have the silver lining of being able to tell myself that I didn't pull that lever...

When I found myself in that situation, I drove to the nearest swing state, bunked with friends, and spent every day of the last week before the election at the GOP headquarters helping to get out the vote. It's not enough to complain or give up. You must fight if you want our country to survive.

75 posted on 08/12/2015 11:40:42 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Those are all excellent suggestions. Has anyone running said any of those?

Also I don’t think you address the problem of legal immigration

Ann Coulter describes in her new book how democrats have legally imported tens of millions of 3rd world leftist immigrants to move the USA leftward into this death spiral.

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676/ref=cm_rdp_product


76 posted on 08/12/2015 11:44:59 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = millions more 3rd world socialist immigrants)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So Trump is a crazy guy who shows up at the morgue asking to try to raise the dead? Seriously, that's your argument in favor of Trump?

People don't necessarily support Trump, per se, they simply support a non-Liberal that for once, FIGHTS BACK!

When is the last time, or the first time, we've seen a Republican fight back against the Liberals or the media like Trump has?

People don't think Trump is really a conservative, and really don't care.

They just want somebody, ANYBODY, that'll stick up for them. Push Back against rampant political correctness. Push back against the media, the Dems.

Somebody that's not a p*ssy. A fighter.

It's not that hard to understand.

77 posted on 08/12/2015 12:18:21 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Leep

Very accurate summary.


78 posted on 08/12/2015 2:18:09 PM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
I'm sure the Trumpettes will be here shortly to explain....

The Trumpettes need explain nothing, you need to explain how all your sniping gets Cruz to 50%, especially since Cruz is not participating in it. Pipe down and learn from the one who is ahead, maybe he is addressing issues that the voter cares about even if they don't appeal to the GOP/GOPe.

79 posted on 08/12/2015 2:55:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Old Sarge

Why? This writer has no evidence and can’t see the future or he’d be getting lottery numbers sent to his tinfoil hat.


80 posted on 08/12/2015 2:59:52 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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