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Poor babies; used, and abused, and destroyed, their mothers damaged and thrown back out to the wolves. What a godless nation we live in.

Fetal tissue was "absolutely critical" to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH, which last year handed out $76 million for work involving fetal tissue, or 0.2 percent of the agency's research budget.
1 posted on 08/11/2015 6:14:58 PM PDT by mlizzy
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Same scientist I’m sure that believe in man made global warming.


29 posted on 08/11/2015 6:53:40 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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fetal tissue stem cells...havent fared as well as adult stem cells

these people can pretend whatever they think they need to

some Im certain will buy their BS


30 posted on 08/11/2015 6:57:04 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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It is absolutely essential to painfully rip the arms and legs off babies, crush their skulls and harvest their organs for profit.

When you are declared a non-person, the powerful can do what ever they want to you. Kill, enslave, experiment on you, use you for sex.

Unwanted babies are just a mass of untermensch filth.


31 posted on 08/11/2015 7:12:07 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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She, and all the others making the claim are lying.


32 posted on 08/11/2015 7:13:36 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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Scientists Say Fetal Tissue Essential for Medical Research

And statist cops say kicking down doors in the middle of the night is essential for crime solving. However we as a nation have decided to draw the line at certain unconscionable violations of basic human rights -- no matter how expedient they may promise to be.

33 posted on 08/11/2015 7:14:10 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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It is why we have Rule of Law (Higher Law/God’s) and NOT Rule of the Oligarchy or Rule of Scientists.

There is NO Natural Right to kill human beings for “scientific” research. In our so-called “Justice” (virtue) System you can NEVER use human beings in evil, degrading, dehumanizing ways (as a Means to an End), like the Nazis and Stalin did. That is a Satanic System and NOT a Justice System in the American sense—which is based on Individual Natural Rights from God.

Of course, SCOTUS has thrown out Rule of Law for their evil, vile pagan/satanic “ethics” system (Stalin’s Constitution). They actually promote Vice, like killing and sodomizing others and theft (welfare) which makes our Just Laws oxymoronic. The promotion of dehumanizing acts is always unconstitutional even if promoted by the “intellectual” (satanic) class.

Certain SCOTUS members should be in prison for Treason and destroying the Words and Meaning of our Constitution-—the one they took an OATH to defend. We need to go back to a true “Justice” System and put these “scientists” in prison along with PP personnel who sell baby parts. To allow killing babies is an abomination-—along with promotion of sodomy “for our children”-—normalizing Afghani behaviors.


34 posted on 08/11/2015 7:17:01 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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The scary sci-fi one is that you end up with a lab grown organ actually grown from the aborted baby you or your kid killed, with all the ethical ramifications and horror story plots that can follow that.


35 posted on 08/11/2015 7:20:36 PM PDT by tbw2
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It is a lie that fetal tissues are “necessary” for research breakthroughs. They are not necessary for *any* kind of research. A scientist can spend a whole career productively without EVER using fetal tissues.

The article is disingenuous in claiming that fetal cells have been essential for developing vaccines and so forth. The cells used for those vaccines are cell lines—yes, they were established from the tissues of murdered babies, but cell lines are essentially immortal. No further babies have to be killed to maintain those cells. (Unless you count the fetal calves which are necessary to feed the cells.) Many researchers use other cells to develop vaccines—dog cells, cells from non-murdered people, etc.

One other thing is the claim about stem cells. An embryo’s cells receive a LOT of signals, telling them how to grow. When the cells are removed from that highly controlled environment, they grow uncontrollably. This is why attempts to use embryonic stem cells can result in tumors. Another aspect of the stem cells is that the younger the embryo they are removed from, the less like the mature tissue they are. So it takes a lot more manipulation to induce those cells to differentiate into the mature tissue, and we know almost nothing about the exact steps required. On the other hand, stem cells extracted from the patient are already partially differentiated into the mature tissue, and only need a little manipulation to mature. Plus, a patient’s stem cells cause no rejection problems as stem cells from an embryo would.

One other thing: for researchers who absolutely must research fetuses, there are plenty of fetuses that die naturally and are available for research. Also, they can do the research in animals—which is how *most* embryologists do their research. In fact, a LOT of embryonic development isn’t even done in vertebrates—it’s done in fruit flies and worms. So there is absolutely no moral problem with their research at all.

Speaking as a researcher, I am appalled that the scientific profession is being made to look so ghoulish by the ilk of those abortion promoters.


36 posted on 08/11/2015 7:30:53 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I am sure nazi scientists made the same statements.


37 posted on 08/11/2015 7:31:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Any headline that starts with “Scientists say” should arouse suspicion. Another profession that was honored at one time and seldom questioned and yet some have purposely transformed it.


44 posted on 08/11/2015 8:11:34 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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Scientists Say Fetal Tissue Essential for Medical Research

NO, IT IS NOT!


45 posted on 08/11/2015 9:19:12 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Hitler and Joseph Mengela would be proud.


46 posted on 08/11/2015 9:49:15 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Almighty Jehovah, deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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Scientists Say Fetal Tissue Essential for Medical Research

Scientists also say AGW is real and Coca Cola will not make you fat.

47 posted on 08/11/2015 11:24:15 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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Haven’t been keeping up, but last i heard was that nearly all the medical headway was being made with adult stem cells and they kept “hoping that someday they would have a breakthrough with fetal stem cells”. Did something change or did they decide the old argument was forgotten enough that it could be dusted off for another round?


48 posted on 08/12/2015 3:19:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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49 posted on 08/12/2015 3:38:38 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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Okaaayyy...what are they using the organs and the brains for?

Some of these genocidal, homicidal manics need to be in GITMO! There is plenty of room for ‘em.


52 posted on 08/12/2015 6:57:34 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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