Posted on 08/08/2015 9:36:54 AM PDT by mongrel
Well, the first of approximately 9,774 Republican primary debates happened last night. I dont plan on writing an analysis of each, but I think this one deserves acknowledgment because it was the first, and because it achieved the admirable feat of distracting from Jon Stewarts last episode of The Daily Show. What delicious irony that his finale was undermined and outshone by a bunch of Republican politicians on Fox News. Ive got nothing against the guy hes a liberal partisan hack who was perfectly adequate at reading jokes off of a teleprompter but I just appreciated the dynamic.
I should note that I didnt watch the earlier debate its just not healthy or natural for any human being to consume five straight hours of political rhetoric in one sitting so I wont have much to say about the candidates who participated in it. I hear Carly Fiorina performed well, which I dont doubt. She seems to be sharp and articulate, but shes also a sharp and articulate former Sen. John McCain aid and Jesse Jackson fan, who has sharply and articulately endorsed embryonic stem cell research, the DREAM act granting in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, President Barack Obamas stimulus, and the Wall Street bailout. She was likewise quite sharp and articulate when she called abortion a decided issue, and explained that she would have voted to confirm Sonia Sotomayor, a radical pro-abortion Supreme Court Justice, because she doesnt believe in imposing a pro-life litmus test on Supreme Court nominees.
So, yes, she is very good at arguing, but the problem is what shes arguing for, and whether you can trust her to argue for the same thing from one day to the next. Also, theres the matter of her business record, which includes being the CEO of Hewlett Packard, overseeing it for five years as the company fell apart and lost half of its value and thousands of its employees. She might have a plausible explanation for this unfortunate stain on her resume, but the fact remains that it was very successfully used against her when she was handily beaten during her failed bid for Senate in California.
He didnt get a chance to say much in this debate, but when he did, particularly later on in the evening, he was fresh, coherent, sharp, witty, and insightful. When asked about race relations, he gave a downright profound answer rare in politics, or anywhere else saying that when he operates on a brain, he gets to see what really makes a person who they are. And this coming from a black man who grew up in the ghetto, rose out of poverty, and became one of the greatest surgeons to have ever lived. He struggled through racism and adversity that few can imagine, yet his message is not petty and vindictive like that of the biracial fellow currently occupying the White House. Carson has, instead, something powerful and unifying to say. After eight years of a Al Sharpton-esque charlatan deliberately stoking tensions and encouraging race riots, Carsons message is all the more urgent.
And that speaks to why I really like the guy. Beyond the issues, beyond even his incredible and inspiring personal story, beyond his smart responses in a televised debate, I believe that Dr. Carson is a good man. I cant really know for sure, but based on everything Ive seen, including the fact that hes been married to the same woman for 40 years, and the fact that he hasnt flip flopped on every imaginable issue, and the fact that hes the only guy in the field whos literally saved the lives of countless people, especially children, I have arrived at the rather safe theory that Ben Carson is a man of character and integrity.
For some reason, we dont talk about character and integrity when discussing our presidential picks. Maybe its because we just assume theyre all scumbags, but I think its more that we, as a culture, have grown quite shallow and childish in recent years. Im sure this isnt a new phenomenon, but its evident that most Americans vote entirely based on which man or woman repeats their own views back to them the loudest. We call this voting on the issues, but we forget that were not voting for some abstract, disembodied collection of opinions. We are voting for a human being. And all of those opinions are meaningless if the human being articulating them is, despite his ability to soothe you with the sound of your own ideas, actually a lying, cheating, conniving, degenerate phony.
I think we ought to start considering a persons character as we contemplate making them the most powerful mortal creature in the known universe. If they have no character, then all of their words are guaranteed to lead to nothing but more tyranny and despair. It would take, at this point, an exceptionally virtuous person to inherit the vast powers of the modern presidency and not be morally destroyed by them. But if the person is already corrupt and comprised going in, were screwed. Theres no chance of anything good coming of it.
So, character. I like Dr. Carson because he has character. At the moment and subject to change, I think Ted Cruz is the best choice he has integrity, the conservative bona fides, a command of the issues, and a great chance at winning but I like having Carson on that stage.
2. I respect the fact that Fox challenged the candidates. Youll never see MSNBC or CNN or any other outlet go after Democrats the way Fox interrogated these Republicans. But, in the end, I was disappointed in the broadcast. From my count, they brought up abortion once and the Planned Parenthood scandal once. On both occasions, the line of questioning went right to rape and incest. Once again, another election cycle where, apparently, the entire matter of protecting unborn life will revolve around the rarest of circumstances.
I want a candidate to be pro-life without exception, but if the media were honest (pause for laughter), we would spend much more time discussing the preponderance of cases, rather than harping exclusively on the hardest ones. And why did rape come up in the Planned Parenthood question at all? Planned Parenthood is selling baby parts, and rather than asking each presidential hopeful what they plan to do about it, Fox instead asks them about rape? Ridiculous.
3. OK, Trump. The man was a disaster and an embarrassment, but then thats his charm. Hes really cornered the market on the whole incoherent train wreck shtick, so I suppose he played his part splendidly. And now the brave and bold and courageous Trump is running around crying that the debate moderators behaved very badly by asking him tough questions.
For the record, the questions werent that tough. They asked him whether hed run third party if he doesnt win the nomination, and he said he might. This was an unpopular answer not because it was elicited by some gotcha trick, but because a Trump third party run would absolutely guarantee a Hillary Clinton presidency. Given that Trump is a lifelong liberal whos been bankrolling the Clintons for years, it has crossed my mind more than once that this whole thing is a Trojan Horse ploy to get Trumps good friend, Hillary, elected. If Trump runs third party, that will absolutely confirm my suspicions.
Im not against the idea of an independent party in principle. In fact, in principle I like it and Ive strongly advocated for it in the past. But this time around there are some good potential choices on the Republican menu, and more importantly, I really dont know if this country can survive four or eight years of Hillary Clinton. The fate of the nation hangs in the balance, and we cant afford to make a game out of it. Trump has all but announced his intention to hand the presidency to Hillary Clinton if Republican voters dont comply with his demands, essentially blackmailing us by threatening to put a tyrant in office if we dont give him what he wants. If that isnt enough to disqualify him in your book, then I have to assume you just dont understand the gravity of the situation.
One must also wonder whether they want a president who pouts like a bullied little schoolboy whenever someone asks him a question he doesnt like. Trump, a 70-year-old man, spent much of last in the midst of a Twitter temper tantrum, upset that Megyn Kelly asked him about his habit of calling women names like fat pig, dog, and disgusting animal, and telling them they look pretty on their knees. He got off a funny line about Rosie ODonnell in response to this question, but when pressed, he practically broke into tears, before erupting into another rant about how hes politically incorrect. Later, on Twitter, he called Kelly a bimbo.
Now, I couldnt care less about political correctness, but actually, it is a problem that Trump says these things about women. Put aside the fact that Hillary Clinton could hang this around his neck and beat him silly with it. On a more fundamental level, a real man doesnt talk to women, or to anyone, this way. We have reached a very sad moment in the history of the conservative movement when a desperate, vulgar, juvenile brat can be hailed by the values voter constituency as brave and courageous because he calls women fat pigs and tells them to get on their knees. And to label such things merely politically incorrect is infuriatingly absurd.
Rick Santorum was politically incorrect in the earlier debate when he compared the Supreme Court gay marriage decision to Dred Scott. Ted Cruz was politically incorrect when he defended his charge that the establishment leaders in his party are liars. Scott Walker was politically incorrect when he bravely stood by his pro-life convictions, making no exceptions for rape or incest. Mike Huckabee was politically incorrect when he came out against allowing transgenders to serve openly in the military, explaining that our military isnt a social experiment. Rand Paul was politically incorrect when he aggressively defended the Bill of Rights. These were politically incorrect statements. They were also true, necessary, honest, and gutsy. They had substance and meaning. When we talk about wanting someone to be politically incorrect, this is what we should be referring to, not a puerile old man degrading women and calling an accomplished journalist a bimbo because she dared to make him feel uncomfortable.
Thats not the behavior of a politically incorrect man. Thats the behavior of a man with no character. And Trump has no character. None.
Hes also a man of no specifics, who continues to gain support despite having failed to ever actually answer any question hes been asked. He declined to offer particulars on his immigration stance, while Marco Rubio put him to shame by giving an informed, competent, and meaty answer on the subject. Trump also ducked inquiries into his business record, defending the fact that he screwed over his lenders by pointing out that lenders are not nice. And because the world is insane and nothing makes sense anymore, this was an applause line.
Trump lied when asked why hes given so much money to the Clintons, claiming he only donated hundreds of thousands of dollars over many years so that Hillary would go to his wedding. He doesnt even bother telling believable lies, I guess because he counts on his supporters swooning over his revolutionary strategy of being openly dishonest about everything.
Trump boasted about being a man of no principles who bribes politicians, and puffed up his foreign policy credentials by declaring that he had the incredible vision to oppose the Iraq War a year after it started. He had no answer when asked about his previous liberal positions, and he couldnt explain his own admission that he identifies more with Democrats. In a stunning moment, Trump an alleged conservative at an allegedly Republican debate defended his past support for government-run healthcare, extolling the virtues of Canadas socialized medicine scheme. Trump is a big government liberal who thinks single payer healthcare works well but, hey, at least hes politically incorrect! And hes rich! Sure, he inherited his wealth, but man is he funny when he insults fat women! Lets make him president!
Because thats what we want in a president, right? Hilarity and entertainment. We dont want character, consistency, principles, or integrity. Totally boring, man. We just want to be amused, thats all. Our civilization is on fire, and we want someone to play the fiddle and dance for us while it all burns to ash.
Trump is not an honest man, or a good one. He doesnt have the courage to stand up against even the slightest challenge, and he has no discernible platform or plan. He lacks the ability to explain his conservative ideals, because they dont exist, and he cant give any specifics at all, because they dont exist. Whatever his meager and inauthentic positive attributes politically incorrect, not an establishment guy, expresses the frustrations of the American people, etc. there are other candidates in the race who possess these same characteristics much more convincingly.
You want someone hated by establishment? Ted Cruz.
You want someone who isnt a politician? Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina (her downsides notwithstanding).
You want a fresh face who can beat Hillary Clinton? Well, theres everyone I just listed, plus Marco Rubio and Scott Walker.
You want a guy who isnt afraid to get angry and take it to the opposition? Nobodys done that better than Rand Paul.
You want politically incorrect? Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum.
Im not endorsing all of these people or telling you to vote for them, Im just letting you know that the anti-establishment, politically incorrect, non-politician, angry, frustrated, bold and combative bases are all thoroughly covered this time around. Trumps services are not needed.
But, then, if you just want someone who will make a good show of it while our country collapses and our childrens futures are cannibalized in the chaos, I admit that nobody is better suited for the task than Donald Trump.
How do you know they stick with their marriage vows?
Are you foolin’ me? It takes a person who has no real moral sense and doesn't have a problem screwing over the stupid human capital to sit in the big boy chair.
The establishment is hated because they act so pompous, but we know they are scurrilous bastards who would screw their own grandma over for money and power.
You’re talking about a guy that’s as erratic as a drunk 95 year old in a Lincoln Town Car. Sure, he’ll bring hell, but you never know from one year to the next if he agrees or disagrees with you.
More blab, blab, blab. What is being done to Trump is what will be done to whomever survives.
“Hey Republicans, Maybe We Should Consider Electing Someone With Integrity”
Yes, Senator Cruz meets that criteria, along with any other that you can think of. Absolutely the most qualified for 2016, by far.
Cruz is head and shoulders above the rest.
I hope other people see it.
I could vote for any of the candidates who side with the citizens and the rule of law. That list is short.
I will not vote for the ones siding with the illegal aliens and their employers. That list is long, unfortunately.
we saw Thursday evening 17 candidates with integrity
yeah, keep riding this train...though I don’t think it will be the final train running.....
So, you are a wussy looking for a coward that is a liberal. You want a limp-wristed liberal and are mad that Trump is leading and he isn’t a liberal. Got it, loud and clear.
Actually what it takes to lead is leadership.
Do you see any of the other candidates with leadership qualities?
I don’t.
They all look like faces in a crowd to me.
Yes, because the only alternative to a prick is someone who is a milquetoast capitulator. /s
We’ve got plenty of those in the race, but I have a hard time seeing Cruz, Carson, and Walker as capitulators.
I thought all 17 candidates were far more impressive than the 5 moderators....far superior....far smarter.....all of them. Well, maybe not Lindsey, but 16 out of 17. Hell, Gilmore could win in some cycles. Maybe Pataki too...but not this time.
We've been voting in people who claimed to be conservative since I was born and the country has been moving left with their help ever since.
Maybe it's time for a 95 year old drunk to take the wheel. Winston Churchill drank a quart of scotch every day and two on Sunday.
>>there are other candidates in the race who possess these same characteristics much more convincingly.
>>You want someone hated by establishment? Ted Cruz.
>>You want someone who isnt a politician? Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina (her downsides notwithstanding).
>>You want a fresh face who can beat Hillary Clinton? Well, theres everyone I just listed, plus Marco Rubio and Scott Walker.
>>You want a guy who isnt afraid to get angry and take it to the opposition? Nobodys done that better than Rand Paul.
>>You want politically incorrect? Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum.
>>Im not endorsing all of these people or telling you to vote for them, Im just letting you know that the anti-establishment, politically incorrect, non-politician, angry, frustrated, bold and combative bases are all thoroughly covered this time around.
Perhaps we want ALL of those characteristics (or at least most of them) in one candidate. You see, we don’t vote for a Triumvirate, We vote for ONE PERSON to be president.
That’s a low blow, even for you. Which one of these three is a limp-wristed liberal: Cruz, Carson, Walker?
That useless ranting of an article doesn’t describe Cruz, Walker or Carson. It is just a liberal anti-Trump hit piece.
Don’t try to hide a liberal anti-Trump hit piece behind anyone else, mkay?
It’s a hit-piece that’s needed. I hope it helps destroy Trump’s candidacy. And learn to show some respect to people who’ve been around a lot longer than you have.
If Republicans actually had integrity and kept to their election promises, Trump would not have as much support as he does now. Republicans pushed all their base away and everyone is looking desperately for none-of-the-above candidate
Ben Carson. Yes, let’s elect a man with no knowledge of foreign policy, no knowledge of domestic policy, no knowledge of military matters or economic policy or how the government works because what could possibly go wrong?
Integrity? I’m not so sure many people in Washington could even pronounce the word, let alone possess it.
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