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Wisconsin’s Shame: the Left Attempts to Discredit a John Doe Victim, (Tr)
National Review ^ | August 5, 2015 | David French

Posted on 08/06/2015 2:23:44 PM PDT by centurion316

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To: jazusamo

It’s not difficult to discredit her, her sources, and her defense of their nonsense; but, it needs to be challenged every time she appears. That’s pretty tough as she is clearly obsessed about all of this.

Some years ago, there was a term: seminar caller, seminar poster. This one is fit to a T.


21 posted on 08/06/2015 3:29:25 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Lurker

Ms Archer is a Proven LIAR. She claimed she was not read her Miranda rights. We hear on the tape the investigator reading her those rights and her response. Ms. Archer says she didn’t know what the search was for. We hear the investigator for six minutes reading the search warrant to her and her response.

Ms. Archer says she was refused a cigarette break. Then we hear on the tape that she is allowed cigarettes and coffee.
Ms. Archer says she was afraid her dogs would be shot. We hear on the tape her dogs barking prior to their being put on the patio. The investigator was speaking to them in soothing tones, practically lapsing into baby talk as they are placed outside the house.

There is not one shred of evidence that what Ms. Archer said took place happened, but there is abundant evidence that she lied repeatedly. Instead of assuming that the first part of the tape was missing, I will take the admonition that the Judge gives in court. When a witness is found to be untruthful in one part of their testimony, the jury can dismiss the rest of their testimony as untrue as well.

Clearly, Ms. Archer Lied through he Lesbian teeth. Unless there is some physical evidence produced to support her story, I’m going to believe the tapes that are clear and convincing of what actually occurred.


22 posted on 08/06/2015 3:30:36 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: sgtyork; conservativejoy

Her objective is to flood this forum with this lefty dung from wingnut blogs with a few hundred visitors. It is part of the ongoing war in Wisconsin in spite of the smack down by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. They are not giving up, and she will keep posting this nonsense until she is chased off.


23 posted on 08/06/2015 3:35:01 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Ping me when you summon the Viking Kitties. (Hmmm do I smell ozone???)


24 posted on 08/06/2015 3:49:27 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: conservativejoy

By all means give all credence to Walker Hater and part time John Chisolm mouthpiece Dan Bice (the scum)

We’re on to you Conservative Joy...you are the serial liar.

As French at NR says.....

The Journal Sentinel’s Bice argues that the tape contradicts Archer’s claims — in his words — that “officers screamed at her, threw a search warrant at her without reading it, barred her from stepping outside to smoke and failed to inform her of her constitutional rights.” But since the recording doesn’t encompass the entire raid — and doesn’t include the critical opening minutes — it’s unclear how he can know that most of these claims are false.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422070/wisconsin-john-doe-investigations-audiotape


25 posted on 08/06/2015 3:53:06 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: centurion316

This is what starts revolutions.


26 posted on 08/06/2015 3:53:40 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: sgtyork; conservativejoy

I have kept Jim informed. Right now she is making a fool of herself and destroying her Leftie Cheesehead allies. Her last screed on Cindy Archer was choice. These people are quite unhinged.


27 posted on 08/06/2015 3:56:01 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: conservativejoy

You’re a liar and a troll. Your time here will be short. And when you’re gone no one will miss you.

L


28 posted on 08/06/2015 3:56:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: joemsewi
I know exactly who they are, and posted essentially these same credentials on another thread by "conservative"joy, whom I am now going to start referring to as bitterliberal [as if there were any other kind.] Anyway, that thread has since been pulled, so for the benefit of other posters who may have missed it, thanks for pointing out who PrWatch are once again, and exactly why bitterliberal won't be pointing FReepers to their homepage any time soon.
29 posted on 08/06/2015 4:10:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: conservativejoy
And you are proven libtard.

Again, I'll give you one more chance to answer this ONE question:

Do you, or do you not believe that indictments based on ANONYMOUS prosecutors with ANONYMOUS witnesses and SECRET evidence have any place in a country with a Bill of Rights?

It's really a very simple question.

30 posted on 08/06/2015 4:12:13 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: FredZarguna

I don’t accept the premise of your question.

I don’t understand why you continue to support the false statement of Ms. Archer. The tapes are physical evidence that she is lying. God forbid you are ever called for jury duty.


31 posted on 08/06/2015 4:15:59 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

D’uh. Not ‘physical’ evidence. Auditory evidence. Low grade troll.


32 posted on 08/06/2015 4:20:15 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: sgtyork

Tapes are not physical evidence? Be sure to notify the State Dept. Watergate was a sham! Nixon resigned for nothing!


33 posted on 08/06/2015 4:24:07 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Piss off. Again.


34 posted on 08/06/2015 4:27:05 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: conservativejoy
OK there's the answer: You don't accept the premise of the question that witnesses have the right to an impartial, speedy, and public trial and to be confronted by the witnesses against them.

That puts you at odds with everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence and every Founder who was associated in any way with the Constitution of the United States.

You're history as far as any credibility you may have ever had on this Forum is concerned. Go back to DailyKos, DU, or whatever other sewer you've crawled out of.

35 posted on 08/06/2015 4:31:00 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: conservativejoy
Tapes are not evidence in court unless the court accepts that certain predicates in the chain of possession and independent verification are present at the time they're made.

The WI Supreme Court ordered all materials gathered in pursuit of this "investigation" destroyed. The prosecutors, who are defendants in this case have committed a crime, not only in retaining them, but in making them public. The Judge who allowed them to be made public has very likely also committed a crime.

Be that as it may, the tapes do not constitute the entire audio record of the raid. That is a predicate required for admissibility in virtually any jurisdiction. Therefore, these tapes are not evidence, even had they been legally obtained [which they have not.]

36 posted on 08/06/2015 4:35:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: conservativejoy

Impeachment is a political remedy, not a legal one. Nixon resigned because Republican Congressional leaders informed him he would not have politically survived. It had nothing to do with the admissibility of the tapes.


37 posted on 08/06/2015 4:38:04 PM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: centurion316; conservativejoy
conservativejoy has a personal interest here........

Hey conservativejoy, you really live in Scott Walker's state, right? .

I guess you are a "teacher", right? A member of the NEA!! Right???

Kinda like your old wing woman.

38 posted on 08/06/2015 4:41:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: centurion316

Soros has planted fifth columnists on forums for years.


39 posted on 08/06/2015 4:46:33 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: FredZarguna

Audio Tapes are listed in Wisconsin Handbook of Evidence.


40 posted on 08/06/2015 4:49:56 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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