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To: mkleesma

You shouldn’t need to fire a pastor like this. Her congregation should have left already. Of course, they didn’t for a variety of reasons:

“I’ve always gone to this church.”
“I’m important at this church and don’t want to start over.”
“I’ve invested too much time and money into this church.”
“She’s got a point. The bible just seems to judgmental.”
“Why put labels on people?”
“I’m so glad that I can finally go to church without hearing ‘Jesus, Jesus, Jesus’ all the time.”

This is why the church in the West is failing.


19 posted on 08/06/2015 6:13:10 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Great points all.


22 posted on 08/06/2015 6:15:01 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: Bryanw92; Wiser now
Bryanw92: You shouldn’t need to fire a pastor like this. Her congregation should have left already.

Wiser now: According to the article, there are only 50 members left. They need to withhold their donations to the church until she is forced to leave because she isn’t being paid. I have seen several churches do just that, one to the point of being forced to close.

A case study on your point:
The pastor at Sierra Madre (CA) Congregational Church decided c. 1970 that he was now an atheist. The great majority of the congregation left and started Bethany Church around the corner, which prospers and remains faithful to this day. With no one paying his salary, the atheist left.

Recognizing that they already had fine physical facilities and needed only godly leadership, the tiny remnant reached out to the large Lake Ave. CC in nearby Pasadena and hired its youth minister, Richard J. Anderson. His first sermon at SMCC in 1972 was to sixteen souls, including his wife and three children. He retired finally after forty years.

Conservatively estimated, the number of people who found Christ as Lord and Savior, through Pastor Anderson's personal ministry along with parachurch ministries founded under his pastorship, already exceeds one million and is increasing now exponentially. God had the last laugh by using that atheist to great effect in harvesting souls for His Kingdom.

45 posted on 08/06/2015 9:54:53 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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