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Crushing the Poor & Middle Class with the EPA
Frontpage ^ | 8/5/15 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 08/05/2015 2:51:01 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 08/05/2015 2:51:01 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Its the Economic Prevention Agency.


2 posted on 08/05/2015 3:43:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek
It isn't just the green retards and luddites that are throttling the US'S economic engine. Just like Agenda 21 isn't just the work of 3rd world dictators. No... the drivers of increased energy costs along with limits on your productivity and consumption are coming from our new feudal overlords. The new royalty of planet earth. The uber wealthy would rather see the world's resources used to satisfy their insane dreams instead of being used to provide the planets vermin...us..... with a comfortable life.
Imagine 21st century middle age type castles.except this castles will be in the heavens with technology that they hold secret from us, the teaming masses of humanity.
They hate us and just like in the movie Independence Day....want us to die.
3 posted on 08/05/2015 4:22:53 AM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: markomalley

Progressives love poor people.

They love making more and more poor people.


4 posted on 08/05/2015 4:25:59 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: free from tyranny
Yup. While I'm OK with reasonable environmental regulations the EPA isn't about protecting the environment.

U.P. Road Commission Taking On EPA

A Michigan mining company spent years and millions of dollars for the ability to mine and now that they got it the EPA is standing in the way of increasing safety and conserving fuel. The mining company wants to build a 21 mile dedicated road to the mill that would shorten the trip from 78 miles through multiple small towns.
5 posted on 08/05/2015 4:34:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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6 posted on 08/05/2015 4:37:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: markomalley

Back in July, I had a conversation with a person deep inside the EPA air quality business.

She said that the EPA received something like ten million comments on this rule. The sheer volume of the comments was far beyond the ability, the capacity, of EPA to handle.

EPA has a large body of contractors and subcontractors in the Research Triangle of North Carolina. All, that is every one, of the contractors was employed for three months sorting, reading then classifying the comments. Each comment might have several subjects and each of those subjects had to be entered under the proper classification on the monstrous spread sheets that were created. Dealing with the comments required other work to be put aside until the comments glut was dealt with.

Yesterday the EPA head said she had 4.7 million comments. my source says more like 10 million.


7 posted on 08/05/2015 4:45:56 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: markomalley

This Report would be valuable if it had stated the truth that all of these economy killing regulations stem directly from Agenda 21.


8 posted on 08/05/2015 4:53:35 AM PDT by Captain7seas (i)
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The EPA wasn't even created by Congress. How in the world would one get rid of it? Another executive order???

Thank you, Richard Nixon! [/sarcasm]

9 posted on 08/05/2015 4:53:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“The EPA wasn’t even created by Congress. How in the world would one get rid of it? Another executive order???

Thank you, Richard Nixon! [/sarcasm]”

To be fair, if there was no EPA, this country would by now look at lot like the ex-USSR, with denuded, toxic areas and a 60-year life expectancy. The EPA was born in an era where a RIVER caught on fire, and lakes were dying or dead. That era is long gone, this country is _vastly_ cleaner and more efficient than it was. With its work done, it should be downsized - A LOT - like, 80%.

In addition, like the IRS, it is a weapon in the hands of evil men. Taxes must be paid so that the government can perform its (as originally designed) functions; the IRS and tax collection are not inherently bad ideas.


10 posted on 08/05/2015 5:18:20 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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I completely disagree. Enviro-whack jobs are everywhere. They get orgasmic at anything that even looks like a toxic waste dump. If President Trump disbands the EPA they will just form up enviro-whacko squads and battalions in its place!


11 posted on 08/05/2015 5:40:35 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Reasonable regulation.

Personally I would put environmental regulation in the hands of the individual states and the only time the feds would be involved would be when there are disputes between states.


12 posted on 08/05/2015 5:50:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The EPA wasn't even created by Congress. How in the world would one get rid of it? Another executive order???

While Nixon established it by Executive Order, only Congress can fund it. It was ratified in the House and Senate, thus funding it.

13 posted on 08/05/2015 6:18:02 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
The EPA was born in an era where a RIVER caught on fire, and lakes were dying or dead.

Bump

That era is long gone, this country is _vastly_ cleaner and more efficient than it was.

Bump

With its work done, it should be downsized - A LOT - like, 80%.

Bump.

Wow. Triple decker bump-o-la. The EPA has gone the way of many govmint organizations (Unions too). Mission accomplished turned to mission creep with a creamy topping of radical politics.

14 posted on 08/05/2015 6:23:17 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: markomalley

Marxist apparatchiks doing the bidding of the Marxist POTUS while Boner and McChinless contemplate their navels.


15 posted on 08/05/2015 7:29:31 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
To be fair, if there was no EPA, this country would by now look at lot like the ex-USSR, with denuded, toxic areas and a 60-year life expectancy. The EPA was born in an era where a RIVER caught on fire, and lakes were dying or dead. That era is long gone, this country is _vastly_ cleaner and more efficient than it was. With its work done, it should be downsized - A LOT - like, 80%

I agree to a point. When the EPA was first created, our rivers, lakes, and bays were open sewers and industrial waste dumps, and smog in many US cities was an actual public health hazard. Clean air and water are reasonable public health concerns and within the legitimate domain of government regulation, simply because there is no way that market forces by themselves incentivize self-regulation (i.e. any firm that self-regulates by not dumping raw waste will be out-competed by one that does).

The problem is that "environmentalism" went from sensible clean air and water regulations to insanity such as preventing development to protect a population of some obscure insect or rodent, and declaring carbon dioxide to be a "pollutant."

16 posted on 08/05/2015 8:20:42 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: The Antiyuppie
To be fair, if there was no EPA, this country would by now look at lot like the ex-USSR, with denuded, toxic areas and a 60-year life expectancy. The EPA was born in an era where a RIVER caught on fire, and lakes were dying or dead. That era is long gone, this country is _vastly_ cleaner and more efficient than it was. With its work done, it should be downsized - A LOT - like, 80%.

Who has the legal power to downsize an entity created by un-Constitutional fiat? (And for what it's worth, I'm a rural person and have no desire for the alternative reality you described.)

17 posted on 08/05/2015 9:29:33 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
While Nixon established it by Executive Order, only Congress can fund it. It was ratified in the House and Senate, thus funding it.

::Sigh:: Considering that Congress can't even muster the moral fortitude to defund Planned Parenthood, that simply means we're doomed.

18 posted on 08/05/2015 9:31:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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19 posted on 08/05/2015 1:12:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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President Obama is surreptitiously colluding with radical anti-growth environmentalists to force ideologically driven carbon-emission controls on the energy industry that will devastate the U.S. economy, congressional investigators have discovered.

No kidding.

Is being an oblivious idiot a requirement for running for political office these days?

20 posted on 08/05/2015 1:19:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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