Posted on 08/03/2015 3:06:02 PM PDT by Kaslin
As I looked at the data from the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, I wondered who on the list could actually dethrone surging frontrunner Donald Trump (other than Donald himself, of course) at the debate on August 6 or even afterwards. Yes, I am aware how early it is and that Herman Cain was leading the pack at this point in the 2012 election. Nevertheless, I think we can stipulate the Trump phenomenon is considerably more significant. Something important is going on here.
Who Could Dethrone Teflon Trump? by Roger L Simon AUGUST 3, 2015 - 3:53 AM (288)(10)
As I looked at the data from the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, I wondered who on the list could actually dethrone surging frontrunner Donald Trump (other than Donald himself, of course) at the debate on August 6 or even afterwards. Yes, I am aware how early it is and that Herman Cain was leading the pack at this point in the 2012 election. Nevertheless, I think we can stipulate the Trump phenomenon is considerably more significant. Something important is going on here.
America is an angrier and more divided country than I have ever seen it in my lifetime, even during the days of Vietnam. There were obviously more demonstrations then, but the split was minor by comparison. Nixons famous silent majority clearly existed. He won the 1972 election 520-17 electoral votes, outdrawing McGovern by some 18 million ballots. Nothing of that sort could happen now. We are chopped in half and neither side is talking to the other. America is in the slough of despond. Nobodys happy except for random three year olds who havent had to confront anything yet. Barack Obama has left a depressed nation, one could almost say clinically. And if Hillary Clinton succeeds in getting elected (less likely now), it will be even worse. It will be the first time we have had a president that the majority of citizens thought was a liar on Inauguration Day. And they will be right.
So along comes Donald, 2016′s version of the Happy Warrior on a gold escalator wanting to make America great again. No wonder people are intrigued. Who wants more despond? Hes got energy, style. Who cares if hes not a politician and doesnt really know the issues, let alone have a fleshed-out position on them? Why would that matter? It never has in the past and maybe it shouldnt.
What attracts people to Trump is that he is not a politician. Politicians are so twentieth century and they screwed that one up quite a bit. Where Trump stands is not the point, except in the most general sense. The same voters who have damned other candidates to Hell for changing positions even once dont seem to care at all that Donald has switched sides many times. Hes got moxie and thats all that counts. And again, maybe that is the most important thing. People can project on to him what they want to believe. This has worked for many past presidents notably JFK, Reagan and, alas, Obama. (Well, nothings perfect.)
The candidates closest to Trump in the latest poll are Scott Walker at 15%, Jeb Bush at 14% and, interestingly, Ben Carson at 10%. (Trump has 19%.) I think all of those people will not have an easy time dethroning Trump. Jeb in particular is poorly situated, even though he was supposedly a good conservative Florida governor. Not only is he a politician, hes from a family of politicians sitting ducks for the anti-politician Trump.
Walker too is a bit of an anti-politician, having taken on the entrenched Wisconsin powers, but that same background is what makes it difficult for him to challenge Trump. Curiously, Carson may turn out to be Donalds biggest threat. At the beginning of the campaign, the doctor seemed a bit confused about what was going on, but he has grown and we can assume if youre smart enough to master neurosurgery, you can pretty well learn politics (if you have the stomach for it). Much as Donald is something of a Teflon candidate, Carson is similarly coated by his extraordinary biography. How does a celebrity casino owner criticize the first man to separate Siamese twins? (Well, Donald will think of a way if he as to. But this will be tricky.)
The current debate format (ten people on the stage at once) favors Trump. Unless he makes a stupid mistake, at those numbers he can rope-a-dope his opposition, largely ignoring them while sticking to his message. You politicians talk I get things done. And think what would happen if Donald spent his entire allotted time attacking Hillary? Better yet, Obama himself. Challenge the president to reveal the full contents of the Iran deal, including all the secret side agreements John Kerry claims he hasnt read. That would get everyones attention.
If Trump comes through the August 6 debate with poll numbers going up or even intact, he will be formidable. The next hill to climb will be his negative numbers. That will be difficult, but who am I to say it isnt doable?
Not Hilary!
Who could dethrone Teflon Hillary?
Trump will detrone Trump, it’s just a matter of time.
That's not teflon; it's grease.
Pretty much anybody. August leads don’t actually mean much.
The problem with Carson is that he is a brilliant man who does not convey brilliance. Yesterday, on tv, he looked as if he was asleep. He speaks in this retiring way that is intensely boring. Compare that to the humorous Herman Cain who brought real black humor to the debate or Trump who brings a New Yorker’s Jewish humor to the debate. Yes, they took Cain out, they may take Trump out, but Carson takes himself out.
The news media is going to try to do everything they can to make Trump quit or lose. The media did this to Cain, Perry, Palin etc. to leave Mcain and Romney. the media wants Jeb this time and probably will get it. the media installed Obama
. But the media couldn’t have done all this without all the immigrants the democrats have imported since 1965 (70 million leftist 3rd world immigrants into the USA since 1965
Thanks to obama's social engineering and forcibly changing the country's demographics.
lol...
Most Blacks and all "liberals".. will absolutely NOT even HEAR the truth about black folks..
The truth is first tragic and then humorous..
The black community is totally..... "Amos and Andyied"...
Kingfish, Andy, Calhoun and Sapphire.. even Momma..
What once was serious humor NOW is total reality..
.....Mystic Knights of the Sea.....
America needs 4-5 yrs of military leadership , with an ancillary appointed civilian administration for certain domestic and civilian affairs . All foreign policy and prosecution of the global war against militant Islam should be handled by a select military counsel , without lawyers ..... civilian politics has become the ruin of our nation and our people and opened the door to every possible social evil . It’s time to clean house and re-establish a Constitution that cannot be subverted by vile minded Leftists
Black I.Q. (generally) seems to have become below ZERO..
How much below is completely individual..
Ted does actually have a history of accomplishments - arguing and winning cases determined by the U.S. Supreme Court!
Here’s how one of the other Republican candidates can begin to overtake Donald Trump:
At Thursday’s debate,
1) bring up the baby-parts-for-cash revelations about Planned Parenthood and the necessity of stopping such practices;
2) tell the truth about Planned Parenthood, including reciting verbatim this statement by Planned Parenthood’s founder Margaret Sanger: ‘’We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.’’ Let that sink in, and embellish it with supporting quotes;
3) vow that if elected President you will immediately take executive action to stop all sales of aborted babies’ body parts; work continuously with Congress to defund Planned Parenthood; and work toward the enactment of a Constitutional amendment prohibiting late-term abortions.
4) expect — in fact, hope for — a barrage of post-debate attacks from the media for telling the truth and then stand your ground.
Why do you hate Trump so bad? He said no when you went for a job or something?
“Trump will detrone Trump, its just a matter of time.”
It’s looking to be about 9.5 years for Trump to be dethroned, by my estimate.
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