[C19fan]

‘Big Stalingrad’

In this case the two sides can kill each other as long as they want.

[grania]

This is a whole new level. Turkey is taking out the Kurds and supporting ISIS. They aren't even pretending where their loyalty is anymore.

Turkey's in NATO. So is NATO going to end up, along with Turkey, fighting for ISIS? It's beyond weird that Russia is the one, again, fighting for civilization.