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Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard to be released
The Hill ^ | July 28, 2015 | Julian Hattem

Posted on 07/28/2015 10:50:20 AM PDT by rdl6989

A former U.S, intelligence agent sentenced to life in prison for spying on behalf of Israel against the United States will be released later this year, according to multiple reports on Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: finalirandeal; iran; israel; jonathanpollard; lebanon; pollard; waronterror
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41 posted on 07/28/2015 6:38:42 PM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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To: SES1066

Pollard is a nut. I don’t know why Israel sticks up for him.

But his release is probably consolation for Israel’s future nuking by Iran.


42 posted on 07/28/2015 6:41:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: justiceseeker93

It’s a no-brainer that Odungo wants something for Pollard’s release. I’m guessing it is Israel keeping mum about the Iran deal.


43 posted on 07/28/2015 6:47:07 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Too late. Everyone knows what Netanyahu thinks, but the MSM has a blackout on Buji Herzog, who is or shortly will be in the US to oppose the deal.


44 posted on 07/28/2015 6:54:11 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: justiceseeker93

I agree 100% that Israel is our friend.

Pollard sold my countries secrets. I don’t care if it was to friend or foe. A traitor is a traitor and traitors should be stood against a wall and shot.

To me this isn’t about Israel as much as it is about him.

We have a lot of traitors. The same should be done to them.


45 posted on 07/28/2015 7:33:52 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

>It’s hard to believe some of the other posts on this thread. A lot of people seem to believe that Pollard is some sort of hero and martyr rather than a traitor.

Pollard should have been executed.

Frankly, it’s not too late.


46 posted on 07/28/2015 10:35:34 PM PDT by Longdriver69
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now; jjotto; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; rdl6989; Soul of the South; G Larry; ...
9. Jonathan Pollard fulfilled his end of the plea agreement, cooperating fully with the prosecution. 10. Nevertheless, Pollard received a life sentence and a recommendation that he never be paroled - in complete violation of the plea agreement he had reached with the government.

Aaron Klein has reviewed Weinberger's memorandum. He stated on his radio show it is nowhere near as damaging as claimed by some. But yet the judge reneged on the plea agreement and sentenced Pollard to life imprisonment, a sentence disproportionally harsh in view of the facts that you outlined here.

So the question is this: Why has the Carter-appointed (black) judge who violated the plea bargain deal escaped criticism from most of the pro-Pollard people? Why is his name almost never mentioned, even now that he is long deceased? Obviously, there is something very strange going on with regard to this judge and his role in the case. Is someone being threatened, bribed or blackmailed to preserve the "good name" of this judge?

47 posted on 07/29/2015 7:07:40 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Nowadays, NOTHING surprises me.


48 posted on 07/29/2015 7:08:58 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: ek_hornbeck
What I can't stand is the fact that Pollard has so many blind supporters who seem his as some kind of tragic victim rather than seeing him for the criminal that he is.

No one is arguing that Pollard did not commit a criminal act. The problem is the sentence is much too harsh for the level of the criminal act. Based on other cases, the appropriate sentence would be in the range of tree to five years, NOT life.

49 posted on 07/29/2015 7:12:23 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Lil Flower
I don’t care if it was to friend or foe. A traitor is a traitor and traitors should be stood against a wall and shot.

A traitor, in this context, would be a person who commits treason. Apparently, you haven't read the Constitution of the United States, which says in Art. III, Sec. 3:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

50 posted on 07/29/2015 7:30:54 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Based on other cases, the appropriate sentence would be in the range of tree to five years, NOT life.

Not "tree". "Gallows".

51 posted on 07/29/2015 8:59:03 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: Lil Flower
I agree 100% that Israel is our friend.

How friendly were they to swap our nuclear war plans to the USSR 30 years ago?

Pollard probably didn't know that would happen. But, it was a disaster. Thank God the Cold War was winding down.

52 posted on 07/29/2015 9:09:45 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: FewsOrange; SunkenCiv

Spike Bowman also pointed out that Pollard had previously tried to sell information to both Pakistan and South Africa, despite his self-portrayal—and the narrative adopted by his defenders—that he was motivated by an ardent Zionism. “He was scheming any way he could to make money,” Bowman said. “This was his big thing. He just happened to hit upon one that was a well to go to. It was purely mercenary.”

Some of the damage Pollard wrought, Bowman said, still has an impact on U.S. national security in 2015 because the data he disclosed forced organizations such as the NSA to alter their operations and intelligence-gathering mechanism. And that was long before Edward Snowden.

“Pollard’s advocates have long argued that he’s suffered more severely than any other spy,” Bowman said. “But that’s because there are no other spies with similar convictions. He’s a loner. Personally I don’t think he should ever see the light of day.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/29/why-is-the-u-s-releasing-israeli-spy-jonathan-pollard.html


53 posted on 07/29/2015 9:49:41 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Nice unbiased source you got there ...


54 posted on 07/29/2015 9:53:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Forgotten Amendments
How friendly were they [Israel (?)] to swap our nuclear war plans to the USSR 30 years ago?

What is your source for that piece of disinformation?

55 posted on 07/29/2015 11:24:44 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Not "tree". "Gallows".

Obviously a typo on my part. Should have been "3 to 5 years." You have a gallows sense of humor.

56 posted on 07/29/2015 11:33:04 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
What is your source for that piece of disinformation?

Bill Casey, Cap Weinberger, subsequent CIA chiefs. It used to be common knowledge. This is the first source I Googled. If you don't like The Guardian (they used to be far left) there are many more:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/jan/12/julianborger1

It was 30 years ago and not this regime. But, it appears to be a fact.

57 posted on 07/29/2015 2:30:06 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: justiceseeker93

OK, that’s worse than my pun ;)


58 posted on 07/29/2015 2:30:44 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: justiceseeker93

I believe the Weinberger memorandum is still classified, though per the NIS none of the information it contains is still classified. I suspect that’s what Klein is referring to, other than a minute or so at sentencing, no one has viewedthe memorandum, including Pollard and his lawyers, up to this day. One day it will be declassified, and I suspect will answer a number of questions. I don’t think the judge is an issue, the memo provided a basis for his action. Eventually we’ll know what’s true and what’s not. His initial attorney is a much bigger issue, since he “forgot” to file an appeal. And, supervised the investigation of Pollard.


59 posted on 07/29/2015 3:41:01 PM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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To: SJackson
I don’t think the judge is an issue, the memo provided a basis for his action.

How can you possibly arrive at that conclusion, having never seen the memorandum and having no idea of what specifically is in the memorandum? (BTW, Klein said he read the memorandum, but admitted some of it was redacted. However, he could make assumptions as to what was in the redacted parts based on the titles of the sections.)

And how can you say the judge is not an issue? It's the judge who imposed the sentence, not Weinberger nor anyone else. It's very basic: there are two sides that bring their positions and papers before the judge prior to sentencing (pre-sentencing hearing), the prosecution and the defense. Weinberger's memorandum (assuming Weinberger actually wrote it) doesn't have to control the judge's thinking. There are many other factors for him to consider: most importantly in this case, the plea agreement. The judge is NOT obligated to rubber stamp Weinberger, but in this case he either did, or even went beyond Weinberger's wishes in meting out the disproportionate sentence. Remember that Pollard pled to unauthorized use of classified documents ONLY.

This smells of the possibility of some secret backroom deal made between someone in the government and the judge, without Pollard or his attorneys privy to it, or the possibility of Pollard's attorneys selling out their client behind his back.

One question for you: what is NIS?

60 posted on 07/29/2015 4:57:16 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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