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Fleeing New Jersey, and Its Crushing Taxes, for a Better Life: The Story of an American Refugee
National Review ^ | 07/27/2015 | Lee Habeeb

Posted on 07/28/2015 4:53:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: MarDav

Wow. I used to live in Pal Park. I loved growing up in NJ and am doing well, but when my boy graduates in 5 years I am out of here. Damn shame. Great memories, but at some point you are just burning money in a trash can


41 posted on 07/28/2015 6:42:09 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: SeekAndFind

For someone who makes their living as a writer, he should be a little more concerned with editing.


42 posted on 07/28/2015 6:44:14 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: gr8eman

I lived in East Cobb County Georgia all my life except during service. High income area, expensive homes, great tax base. Lot’s of transplants from Ohio, New Jersey, Connecticut and the like - escaping the costs of liberalism. First thing they wanted was “more parks, more public transit, more sidewalks”. The county responded with all of it - including a perpetual SPLOST.


43 posted on 07/28/2015 6:44:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MarDav

“NC has gone for Obama twice!”
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Not so. Obama won North Carolina in 2008, but Romney won
North Carolina in 2012....narrowly.


44 posted on 07/28/2015 6:47:13 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those relocation stories are great news for the people of Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida.

Not if they bring their foolish voting patterns and bad manners with them.

45 posted on 07/28/2015 6:48:14 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is just another sad story of a guy who got driven out by organized crime (the unions and the state and local governments).

The crappy gun laws alone in the fascist State of New Joisey would have driven me out long ago. It's no wonder they restrict firearms so heavily for private citizens. They want to keep them unarmed so they can continue to rob them blind. Some armed citizens might get uppity and quickly end their sweet scams.

46 posted on 07/28/2015 6:49:04 AM PDT by Gritty (A citizenry that votes for an asshole is less deluded than one that votes for a messiah-Mark Steyn)
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To: gingerbread

RE: Let’s look at the state of New York. Now the state of New York are touting their plan to lure businesses back into the state. NO STATE TAXES FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS

Only if you establish your business in certain areas of New York - mostly the economically suffering UPSTATE.

Plan isn’t working though.

See here:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/10/8384259/startup-new-york-governor-andrew-cuomo-jobs

New York’s expensive startup initiative only created 76 jobs. Start-Up New York promised 2,000 jobs, but only delivered 76.

That was after the state spent $28 Million in a National Ad campaign.


47 posted on 07/28/2015 6:49:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Gaffer

Parks are a good thing.

There are going to be a LOT of communities that, in the coming months and years as the Obama HUD stuff goes into effect, are going to wish they invested in parks.


48 posted on 07/28/2015 6:51:52 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MattinNJ

I lived in Pal Park (over a church building) on Central Blvd for the seven years prior to moving down here to NC. Don’t know how old you are, but the Leonia youth football league was comprised of boys from both Leonia and Palisades Park and I played with a bunch of kids for there.

Best pizza I’ve ever had was from Donna’s Pizza on Broad Ave (every time I go back, I have to stop in—Donna used to bake and deliver the pizza himself when he first started out back in the 60’s). I also try to hit the Pal Park Bakery and get some boston creme doughnuts — geez, those things were good!

The town is now about 50-60% Korean.


49 posted on 07/28/2015 6:53:53 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: tanknetter

One man’s castle is another man’s prison.

Next time you go to a “park” take a picture at the “rules”.


50 posted on 07/28/2015 7:08:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

If it comes down to a choice between tying up land in parks with highly restrictive rules, or with high density housing with HUD’s strings attached being built in formerly-single residence zoned neighborhoods ...

Well, not much of a choice, is it?

AND the parks option would have support from both the environmental crowd and Liberal NIMBYers.


51 posted on 07/28/2015 7:26:45 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Theodore R.

Reagan was a totalitarian? Steve Lonegan is a totalitarian? Some political who’s who your thumbing through there.


52 posted on 07/28/2015 7:32:24 AM PDT by HannibalThaddeusBeauregardIV
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To: tanknetter

What tells me a lot is your use of HUD this or that in your statements.

I’m sure I don’t need to post all the confining and restrictive rules one might commonly see in most any park, but the use of HUD etc. bespeaks of urbanized or urbanized influence frankly.

You know the kind of urban where a bikini clad sunbather girl could get beat up by a bunch of Muslim Thug zealot females, or a white girl with a baby could be beat down by some black girls who don’t think she should be there (all the while one of Obama’s sons twerk dancing at the melee). Or where if you happen to be doing something any protected minority thinks you shouldn’t get the crap beaten out of you and it gets posted on Youtube....

Don’t buy it. If you want nature, buy your own.


53 posted on 07/28/2015 7:36:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

I left NJ in 2006.

Live in low tax southern DE now.

Property taxes are one fourth or less of what they were in NJ, and no sales tax.

NJ is a beautiful state-although if you have just traveled the Turnpike you would not believe it.

Even with GOP governors, the Dems have a lock on NJ and have ruined it.

My brother-in-law in NJ pays $12,000/yr. in property taxes. I pay about $1,400. Including the school tax.

We have great schools here, the roads are paved and well maintained, people are friendly, church is still a big deal here.

Unfortunately, most of the population in DE is up north and hopelessly Dem and liberal. All of our Congressional representation is Democrat.

The southern part is very conservative.


54 posted on 07/28/2015 7:37:13 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Timocrat

You are right on about bringing their bad habits with them. We have them flocking to Delaware with their big public retirement pensions and voting for any school referendum and Democrat tax increase that comes down the road. Old habits die hard.


55 posted on 07/28/2015 7:54:12 AM PDT by Hartlyboy
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To: Gaffer

You have read the new HUD rules, right? And the recent Supreme Court decision on the use of disparate impact in housing policy? Or at least seen the various threads here on them?

Of particular interest is the part in the new HUD rules that orders localities to look at housing outcomes from a regional perspective. Again, there have been threads here on that, worth looking over. In any event, from the new HUD rules outer-ring suburbs and even exurbs get drawn into the “urban” areas for calculating impact.

One solution is not to take HUD money. But thanks to the Supreme Court decision on disparate impact that may not even be enough to escape court judgements (or, more likely, consent decrees from cowed local leaders).

The only way would be to tie the land up now, someway.


56 posted on 07/28/2015 8:00:00 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind
Those relocation stories are great news for the people of Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida. But they’re terrible news for the people of New Jersey, who are stuck with ever-increasing tax bills and fewer employers and workers to pay them.

I'm not so sure I'd call it "great" for the southern states being overrun by yankees. If they could leave their high-tax welfare state mentality behind, it would be managable, but in all too many cases, they are like locusts, who, destroying one place, swarm to find another to restart the cycle of destruction.

57 posted on 07/28/2015 8:04:42 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: tanknetter
The only way would be to tie the land up now, someway.

I realize your concern of impending encroachments of our collects rights of freedom. But it is no reason to tax a free individual because others are used to something else.

The way to "tie up" the land is to own it. Ergo my prior statement.

However, the most devious way is to use their rules and foibles against them. Next time you see water, a drainage ditch or the like on some publically owned property you're concerned about, you could file a protest and statement of concern about that "wetlands" at so and so place. it all degrades from there. Pit them against themselves.

58 posted on 07/28/2015 8:08:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Yeah, on one of the other threads I suggested transplanting some examples of an endangered species or two onto the land, take pictures and send them off to WWF or Sierra Club or something.

Which, of course, would be illegal. So I was only joking about it ;-) u


59 posted on 07/28/2015 8:11:49 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

I actually did use the “wetlands” gambit where I used to work. I stopped their plans dead cold.

Also, on some land I used to own I found lots of wild plants that were called “Pink Lady Slippers” growing.

Checked them out and they were “protected” in my state. I kept that knowledge in reserve for any situation where my property might have been taken by the county for ROWs (it had happened before).


60 posted on 07/28/2015 8:15:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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