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Fleeing New Jersey, and Its Crushing Taxes, for a Better Life: The Story of an American Refugee
National Review ^ | 07/27/2015 | Lee Habeeb

Posted on 07/28/2015 4:53:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

My wife and I lived in Bloomfield NJ from 1962 til 2002. We then moved to Belvidere NJ when we took in my elderly inlaws. My mother in law passed away last Nov. at the age of 100. Now circumstances (high cost of living in NJ) will drive us out. Even with all of the problems we have had a great life here. Where we live does not look like what people think NJ is. It is beautiful here. But we will have to go elsewhere.


21 posted on 07/28/2015 5:47:44 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Rummyfan

I honestly don’t know, but it seems to me someone so invested in their father’s lifelong story and struggle would have something to say about the circumstances that prompted those drastic increases in taxes and costs to live would have something to say about the politics of all that, wouldn’t it?


22 posted on 07/28/2015 5:47:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Trying to tell these liberals, socialists and communists that high taxes means the total destruction of a civil society is an impossible task. The best thing to do is leave the state. Eventually, there won’t be any one to tax, and that’s exactly what they want to do. The only ones left in the state will be those being supported by the state that has no more money.


23 posted on 07/28/2015 5:51:20 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: tanknetter
Doesn’t New Jersey even charge an “exit tax” to get every last dime out of taxpayers leaving the state?

Yes...on the Delaware Memorial Bridge it costs nothing to go from DE to NJ, but it'll cost you $5 to leave NJ and get back to DE. At least it was $5 the last time I made the trip...since my folks died I have absolutely no reason to ever go to NJ again.

24 posted on 07/28/2015 5:55:44 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How leaders think about capital matters too.

Government at all levels is dominated by the former 60's radicals who desperately wanted those jobs, and nearly devoid of the economically literate...who abhorred such jobs. The fix may eventually come when the radicals die off and are replaced by Reagan's generation. The job of conservatives is to expose and attack Communist thinking, wherever it is found. I don't think John and Mitch are up to it.

25 posted on 07/28/2015 5:56:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: SeekAndFind

Born and raised in Leonia, NJ (1 mile from the GWB) and lived there most of my life. Despite a college degree and a job as a software engineer, I could not affort a house in that part of NJ (my wife and I were looking about an hour or so away from the area until we got fed up looking at the slim pickings that passed for 200K homes. In fact, just after we left, the Bergen Record newspaper had an article in it that was titled “The Last of the $300K Homes”).

In 2005, we moved to NC, bought a house for $172K (that would easily have sold for $750K in northern NJ at the time we bought it). Taxes on the house were under $1100 per year (we used to laugh at how our total mortgage payment would not have covered the monthyly tax bill on the house if it were in NJ!).

As I look at what I’ve just written, it saddens me. Critical life-choices now boil down to dollars and cents—nothing more. There are memories I have of my early life that are forever locked away (in some union boss’s cash box, no doubt), and exist in some past life, now gone, removed by a distance of almost 600 miles and thousands and thousands of dollars.


26 posted on 07/28/2015 6:08:52 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: jsanders2001

People in NJ have been voting themselves into financial oblivion for decades; they haven’t a clue what they are doing to themselves. They think they are “socking it to the rich.”


27 posted on 07/28/2015 6:10:31 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: MarDav

What an interesting narrative. The northern imports though are ruining NC politics too. I hoper your neighbors don’t tax away your prosperity.


28 posted on 07/28/2015 6:12:28 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: gingerbread
The only ones left in the state will be those being supported by the state that has no more money.

One would think that Crispy Cream would understand that.

29 posted on 07/28/2015 6:14:00 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Gaffer
I can't speak for the author but I can speak for myself. A recent escapee from that asylum known as New Jersey. My first Presidential vote, in 1984, was for Ronald Reagan, then George H.W. Bush, then Bob Dole, then George W. Bush, another George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney (but only because I was asked to by my wife. I wasn't going to vote at all.).
My gubenatorial votes were always for the Republican with the primary vote always for the most conservative.
I'm sure voting record was perfect though.
30 posted on 07/28/2015 6:14:35 AM PDT by HannibalThaddeusBeauregardIV
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To: JJ_Folderol

Has NJ ever elected anyone good? I understand one of Edison’s brothers was governor decades and decades ago.


31 posted on 07/28/2015 6:16:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: HannibalThaddeusBeauregardIV

Yea, I see; you’re just overwhelmed by the totalitarians in both parties.


32 posted on 07/28/2015 6:17:40 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Theodore R.

Not yet...though I have remarked on a number of occasions that we didn’t move far enough south.

NC has gone for Obama twice!


33 posted on 07/28/2015 6:18:11 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Theodore R.

BTW the only thing cheaper about living in NC is the cost of housing. Everything else is the same (gasoline costs more) and salaries are lower.

It’s the Borg thing...”Resistance is futile. You will be absorbed.”


34 posted on 07/28/2015 6:20:11 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Theodore R.

Scott Garrett in the NJ 5th Congressional District is the only good representative NJ has had in my lifetime.


35 posted on 07/28/2015 6:25:28 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: Theodore R.

> People in NJ have been voting themselves into financial oblivion for decades; they haven’t a clue what they are doing to themselves. They think they are “socking it to the rich.”

I have a buddy who lives there that I talk to often. He told me that the state has gone nuts taxing everything and that everbody was abandoning ship and moving elsewhere. I think I know why now.


36 posted on 07/28/2015 6:29:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: HannibalThaddeusBeauregardIV

Just a guess here, but I bet since your escape you have on more than one occasion told others about how you voted, didn’t you?

That’s what I find curious about this particular story. Absolutely no mention.


37 posted on 07/28/2015 6:33:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MarDav

RE: In 2005, we moved to NC, bought a house for $172K (that would easily have sold for $750K in northern NJ at the time we bought it). Taxes on the house were under $1100 per year (we used to laugh at how our total mortgage payment would not have covered the monthyly tax bill on the house if it were in NJ!).

Here’s a question for you -— I assume that you are still doing the same kind of job as you were doing in NJ ( i.e. software engineering ).

What are the salaries of software engineers in NC compared to those in NJ?

That affects cost of living as well doesn’t it?

Thanks.


38 posted on 07/28/2015 6:34:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Theodore R.

Let’s look at the state of New York. Now the state of New York are touting their plan to lure businesses back into the state. NO STATE TAXES FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS. Now, if getting rid of taxes means luring businesses in to the state, why is it too hard to imagine that lessening taxes on every body would improve the economy for every one? But, I’m afraid that this mental exercise would be too difficult for these people to comprehend.


39 posted on 07/28/2015 6:38:48 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: Gaffer

Yep...problem is as my brother notes...all them Yankees come south and start making it like the liberal utopia they left. North Cakalacki, case and point!


40 posted on 07/28/2015 6:41:26 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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