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Hillary Clinton Lays Out Climate Change Plan
New ork Times ^ | July 27, 2015 | By TRIP GABRIEL and CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 07/27/2015 5:44:57 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

DES MOINES — Setting ambitious goals for producing energy from the sun, wind and other renewable sources, Hillary Rodham Clinton seized on an issue Monday that increasingly resonates with Democratic voters and sets up a stark contrast with the Republican presidential field.

With many Republican candidates saying they do not believe that climate change is a threat or requires government intervention, Mrs. Clinton assailed their logic, saying, “The reality of climate change is unforgiving no matter what the deniers say.”

She set a goal to produce 33 percent of the nation’s electricity from renewable sources by 2027, up from 7 percent today — a higher goal than the 20 percent that President Obama has called for by 2030.

Mrs. Clinton’s strategists see climate change as a winning issue for 2016. They believe it is a cause she can advance to win over deep-pocketed donors and liberal activists in the nominating campaign, where she is facing Democratic challengers to her left on the issue. It is also one that can be a weapon against Republicans in a general election. Polls show that a majority of voters support candidates who pledge policy action on the warming climate. . .

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To: Brad from Tennessee

Oh! Goodee!

LOL......bozo’s


21 posted on 07/27/2015 6:23:08 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: hecticskeptic
 photo Whitcamperswindturbine.png

property owners living next door to these monsters are finding that no one wants to buy their properties,

Local non-leaseholders here in central IN have seen a 25-40% decrease in property value after the 500' tall monuments to Gaia went in.

A second farm planned for our area died when the Zoning Board forced the foreign owned developer to provide a Property Value Guarantee. They contended there were never, ever any instances of property value loss anywhere Industrial Wind turbines were sited, but they sure packed up when they were told to stand by that claim.

22 posted on 07/27/2015 6:28:45 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Sex change...Climate change...Spare change...
Democrat policies will transform America.


23 posted on 07/27/2015 6:35:52 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: mylife
I guess we could warm the oil, but that requires debendable electricity...

Actually, they do have immersion heaters in the oil at least the ones in cold climes... On a decent sized wind turbine, the gearbox will take about 80 to 100 gallons of oil and it has to be changed every 6 months to a year. Gearboxes have been a very serious reliability weak link... you might have seen pictures with them on fire. The bearings in the gearboxes are very highly loaded as one would expect to both the radial and thrust loads. Did I mention that these things are a total disaster?

24 posted on 07/27/2015 6:37:55 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: nascarnation
Does Canada have the crony capitalist gravy for “big wind” like the USA? That’s the real reason for building wind turbines here.

Of course they do.... IWTs (industrial wind turbines) don't run on wind.... they run on deep deep rich subsidies and yes, it seems that it's always the same players at the trough.

25 posted on 07/27/2015 6:42:33 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: hecticskeptic

Entitlement Army to provide the votes.
Crony Capitalists to provide the dough.

It’s a tough combination to compete with.


26 posted on 07/27/2015 6:44:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

PLEEEZZ; NOT THIS SH#T AGAIN!!!!


27 posted on 07/27/2015 7:00:39 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Walrus

YOU HAVE DAMNED MY EYES!


28 posted on 07/27/2015 7:01:23 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Goals are not a plan.

A plan includes specific steps which will be utilized to achieve the desired result.

Yet Trump is eviscerated for not being specific.


29 posted on 07/27/2015 7:05:43 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: digger48
A second farm planned for our area died when the Zoning Board forced the foreign owned developer to provide a Property Value Guarantee. ,/p>

One of the first steps the Ontario government took when they pursued this path of wind power was they took the power away from the municipalities to say no to IWTs...sad to say but there is no zoning issue on the table to deal with. Literally, all person and municipal rights have been stripped away.

30 posted on 07/27/2015 7:52:33 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I challenge Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton to cease and desist the exhalation of carbon dioxide.


31 posted on 07/27/2015 8:00:30 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: hecticskeptic

IN has done this to municipalities over fossil fuel production. It only takes one more step to keep that local power from having a say on wind.

What was truly dissapointing, was that none of our state and federal elected officeholders would lift a finger to help us stop them. “Local Issue”, they all said.

Problem was, Big Blow rolls into town and steamrolls the rubes with big promises, “helping” the locals write the wind ordinances.

In our case, one of the commissioners was to directly benefit from leases on his family farm. He’s the only pro-wind elected official now left in the county. His term comes up next year. The rest got primaried out of a job.

Oh...BTW....they were all Republicans. But despite the families torn apart over the battle, many friends and allies were made across the political aisle in opposition to irresponsible local government.


32 posted on 07/27/2015 8:08:57 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I wonder why the NYTs failed to mention that she gave this little speech in an empty bus terminal bicycle storage room?

Nobody there but The Beast and the cameras, but she still had to keep looking at her notes.


33 posted on 07/27/2015 8:11:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee
She set a goal to produce 33 percent of the nation’s electricity from renewable sources by 2027

Why not just set a goal to breed a flock of geese that lay gold eggs?

34 posted on 07/27/2015 8:15:15 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Dear Ms. Clinton,

WHEN, over a significant period of time, has the climate NOT been changing?


35 posted on 07/27/2015 11:24:32 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If I were to make a list of the things America does NOT need, a president who is deluded enough to think they can change the weather would probably be somewhere near the top.


36 posted on 07/27/2015 11:31:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: digger48

One can only wish that those who think that wind is a good idea look at jurisdictions like yours to see what the history is... the jobs that were promised that turned out to be virtually nothing, the way that complete neighbourhoods are torn apart and people never speak to each other again, the politicians who benefit from leases, the destruction of property values.... and on and on it goes. There are some fabulous anti-wind documentaries out there that should be mandatory viewing for the people of every municipalities where wind is a threat just so they know the ride to hell they are in for. For example, your experience just sounds exactly like this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHMIX_3EqFs This is the trailer for a documentary called Windfall by Laura Israel ….. the experience of a small town in upstate New York.

In Ontario, some folks deep in the heart of the mess in southwestern part of the province produced this and the entire documentary can be seen online http://www.dliproductions.ca/films/big-wind/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1tM-I6XKKQ Note the commonalities to the experience in New York….IWTs are a disaster wherever they are located but at least the New York experience showed some democracy in action. Not so in Ontario… it’s rammed down your throat with two choices… accept and put up with them or move and take a huge hit on your property values.


37 posted on 07/28/2015 6:53:44 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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