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To: DoughtyOne

McCain’s flight instructor tried several times to get him kicked out of the program because he was going to get someone killed. McCain was a dumbass hot shot who hit his afterburners on the Forrestal to mess with the guy behind him. McCain killed 134 men that day. Nobody in his squadron liked him. As Trump said he was at the bottom of his class. I’ve met McCain and he is a dip shit. A very smarmy, self-absorbed little monster of a man who thinks everything he does and says is brilliant when he is actually just box of rocks stupid. His wife was smoking hot a few years back when I met them, I got the impression she hung out in Arizona and he was never around and stayed in DC.

Notice how McCain stepped back when Trump hit back? That’s because McCain cannot stand up to scrutiny. His history is mostly BS. McCain is still within range of being swift boated.


88 posted on 07/27/2015 3:06:36 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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To: isthisnickcool
McCain’s flight instructor tried several times to get him kicked out of the program because he was going to get someone killed.

I've read the old letter his flight insturctor had written regarding McCain.  Today when you do a search for it, you'll find a different letter all over the internet.  That's not the original.

I remember the instructor talking about his crash into the bay.  I also read his comments about McCain only being made to carry out 2 of the 6 required deck landings for certification.

The comment about him trying to get McCain kicked out, doesn't stick in my mind, but the letter was a little over a page long, so that very well could have been in there too.  I just don't recall that part.


McCain was a dumbass hot shot who hit his afterburners on the Forrestal to mess with the guy behind him. McCain killed 134 men that day.

This is something I've never been able to verify.  It fits with McCain's character.  He was a smart ass flash in anger type of individual.  He was before.  He was afterwards.  He still is today.  He never grew up.  He never applied himself.  Here he was on the Forestal having flown only five missions when that incident took place.

If he did do a wet start or whatever they call it, it would certainly be like him to do that.  The official record says the problem started across the deck from him.  I have no way of knowing if that was true or if the record was sanitized for McCain's benefit.

It's certainly interesting that he was involved at all.  And them admitting he was involved even at a distance, makes me wonder if the distance was really zero feet and zero inches from him.  If he did start that incident, I would agree with your comments regarding his responsibility for the loss off every life.  Not being able to verify, it leaves me unable to agree to it.  I will tell you that I do not dismiss this.  One day we may know more.  I want to know the truth, even if it vindicates him.  I despise the guy, but I don't want to charge him with something he didn't do..

Nobody in his squadron liked him. As Trump said he was at the bottom of his class. I’ve met McCain and he is a dip shit.

This may be true.  Again, I'm not postitive of it.  His own comments come pretty close to verifything this though.  That's the thing about McCain. He seems to have this belief that if he tells a sanitized version, it will prevent others from telling their side of it.  So what he does is come right up to the verge of saying it all, but stopping just short.  What that tells me, is that the situation was ripe for the other versions to have been true.  Consider this from his book.  “I did not enjoy the reputation of a serious pilot or an up-and-coming junior officer.”   That's how he described himself in his book, "Faith of My Fathers"

Here's an interesting site.  I don't know how much of it is true, but the guy seems to give a pretty even handed presentation.  Did McCain Show the Right Stuff?  The guy doesn't seem to make outlandish claims.  I read it last week, and don't remember him doing so.  You and others can read it and make of it what you will.

A very smarmy, self-absorbed little monster of a man who thinks everything he does and says is brilliant when he is actually just box of rocks stupid.  Well, that's my view of him from a distance.  I've watched his behavior and actions for many years..

His wife was smoking hot a few years back when I met them, I got the impression she hung out in Arizona and he was never around and stayed in DC.  That has been my thought too, but this is not something I have first hand knowledge about.  She does look very pretty on television.  His demanor makes me feel sorry for her.  I hope her life is good.

Notice how McCain stepped back when Trump hit back? That’s because McCain cannot stand up to scrutiny. His history is mostly BS. McCain is still within range of being swift boated.
 Would suit me just fine, if it's warranted.

100 posted on 07/27/2015 4:03:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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